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Using Annie Leibowitz means the parents were looking for something provocative. Perhaps something to detract from Miley’s underwear pics circulating the Internet? Miley may be a near-billionairess, but she’s no sweet angel dummy.

Move aside, twitney spears!

Vanity Fare has always exposed models, many of whom are under age, or appear to be. The question is who is their target audience? Pedophiles? Broadway currently hails Spring Awakening which features underage nudity and sexual explicitness. Why isn’t anyone responsible for the exploitation of these children since their own parents seem incapable of making wise decisions for them?

Nothing is wrong with this photoshoot. If you had seen the “behind the scenes”, you would have seen that she was sitting on a chair or stool wearing jeans. And, if pedophiles drool over pictures like this, then THEY are the problem, not Miley or anyone involved in the photoshoot. It’s not their intention to create lust. That comes from the sickos getting a thrill out of looking at underage kids. I doubt Miley or Annie said, “Hey, let’s make pedophiles fantasize about this photoshoot.” I am a nudist and I believe that nude is not lewd in non-sexual situations. This strongly applies to Vanessa Hudgens. Remember her? The girl with the nude photos? If Annie were to photoshoot a nude Miley Cyrus, would it make any difference? All nude with nothing censored? Obviously, it may be hard for people to understand since they haven’t experienced nudism. I have and I can clearly see the difference between nudism and pornography. If you can’t, that’s your problem, but don’t try to bash me for this comment just because I believe in nudism.

Given that you likely have no first-hand knowledge as to what the intentions were when that pose was chosen for the photograph, it’s not believable to insist that they had no intention of creating lust. Reasonable thought draws the conclusion from the choices made as per demonstrated by the photo itself. It is a sexual pose resulting from a sexual scene created. It is irrelevant if she was naked underneath the sheet. The end result is to give the impression that she was, and that is what is being judged.

As per your rant about nudism… I don’t see what the connection to what my point is. This isn’t a case of an innocently taken photo of someone who lives a nudist’s life being distorted… this situation is totally different. Your choosing to rant about nudism and suggest anyone is bashing you suggests that you’re the one who can’t separate your own life choices (and how people have obviously treated you because of them) from this very different and very separate issue.

This post had and still has nothing to do with nudism. If you’re looking for a debate/fight about nudism, you should probably look elsewhere because my energy will remain focused on the very different and very separate issue of a 15 year old being sexualized by adults who should know better.

Forgetting the fact that I am a nudist…which I will never forget…you insisting the pose to be sexual probably comes from prudish and perverted ways of thinking. That’s why I bring nudism into my rant…because thanks to my lifestyle, I don’t get turned on by underage girls wearing sheets over themselves. I’m not saying you are turned on since your comment shows no evidence of that. My point is that Miley is not being sexualized. Annie herself said that the photos were misunderstood by people who thought them to be sexual.

Not in this article, but I read that on another website…about Annie saying people misunderstood the photos. The problem is our stupid society that has brainwashed people to believe anything has to be sexual, even if the original intentions are not. I really don’t belong here…in this country, I mean. I gotta move to a European country where people are more relaxed about nudity, thus further bringing my nudism rant into this discussion. The only reason I’m stuck here is because I can’t afford to move to Europe.

Having said all that, I don’t believe Miley’s photos are sexual. I agree with Annie, in that they are pretty and natural. Don’t ask why I think that because it’ll start another nudism debate. You just have to trust me that I have no intention to think Miley’s photos are anything obscene or bad, just because most others do. Like I said, they’ve been brought up by our prudish society and that’s why they think Miley’s photos are sexual. Obviously, Annie does not and being what I am, I am proud of her and Miley for that matter.

David. Oy. You said to me:

you insisting the pose to be sexual probably comes from prudish and perverted ways of thinking.

First of all, telling me my opinion about it comes from prudish and perverted ways of thinking? Hello? Do you not realize that when you lump everyone who has an opinion that isn’t the same as yours about (what is made to look like) nude photographs of a 15 year old into the category of perverted thinkers, you’re saying way more about yourself than me.

Sorry that you obviously feel everything is some attack on your nudist choices. To me, that defensive attitude suggests you might still have some guilty feelings about it and need to constantly justify it to your own self.

You can choose to believe whatever you want about Annie’s photos. I am also free to believe whatever I want. It’s that way in a free world.

Having said that, it is obvious to many, many people that the photos are meant to be sexual. Annie can say whatever she wants, just like a starlet can “accidentally” leak a sex tape or some nude photos and then say they weren’t “meant” to be public. What matters, are the giveaways in the situation. It is a fact that her hair, makeup and pose all suggest sex. The red lips, the tousled hair and the “naked under satin sheets” look of the photo all suggest a “oops you caught me after sex” photo.

Here’s why:

A) 15 year old girls do not normally sleep nude, which spoils the “natural sleeping beauty look”. They are usually too worried that a parent will open their door to check on them. 15 year old girls who have not been raised as a nudist are usually modest about nudity in front of their parents and/or siblings. I know this because I have both been one and shared confidences with other 15 year old girls… and I have also raised one, and been able to hear confidences shared by her and her friends.

B) A 15 year old girl waking up is not likely to have red lipstick on. Contrary to what Hollywood portrays, we females do not wear lipstick to bed and even if we did, it would be all over our bed linens by morning and not still on our lips.

C) Had Annie wanted to portray something “natural” why not use a natural situation for a 15 year old, like a peeking out from the shower with the vanity strewn with makeup and all the acoutrements of being a 15 year old girl? How about a shot of her tanning outside on her stomach with her bikini strap undone. My own daughter does that to tan. Those are natural situations… a 15 year old with red lipstick sitting up holding satin sheets to her breast implies she’s nude underneath and based on the lipstick and the earlier mentioned facts about sleeping… that’s not a natural situation for a 15 year old.

Therefore… she was made up to portray that “oops you caught me after sex” look and when it didn’t turn out so well in the media, they all want to cover their proverbial asses.

I find it extremely unfortunate that you can’t put aside your own personal need to justify the photos, that you can’t separate being a nudist from other good judgements, and can’t see that it’s wrong to use a 15 year old that way.

If the photos were of a 15 year old at a nudist camp/site/etc it would be different and your points would be more valid. This is a different situation and instead of calling me perverted for thinking it’s wrong to try pervert the image of a 15 year old, why don’t you ask yourself why, to justify and defend your own lifestyle, you are willing to overlook someone who would like to pervert the image of a 15 year old girl and you choose to instead insult the person who is saying that’s a wrong thing to do.

I’d have to say that makes your own thinking a little on the questionable side. It leaves me thinking you’d justify anything if it had even the minutest bit of relation to the topic of being nude… because you’re so afraid that your choice to be a nudist actually isn’t ok.

But again… that’s my opinion, and I’m entitled to it and glad to live in a free country where I can have it.

If I’m totally wrong about you, you should ask yourself how you can present yourself to make people think differently.