fracas

Just like I hate that the Indians land were taken from them and they were slaughtered , I hate that Jewish people are condemned for being , I hate that slavery ever existed, I think its wrong to own any human, ever, period,BUT, The racial thing will NEVER go away and its not any more one sides fault than the other, we ALL bleed the same way, the same color and we all die the same way too. Life is hard, LOVE should be ALL that matters…..
I don’t claim to be perfect, BUT i am human and a sister to all colors, all humans…
PEACE!

Fracas, over to Johns blog, this instant! for a spanking, I’d say I’d do it or something, but then I might be called gay, so, just let john do it, he seems to like that sort a thing, a little too much I think but who am I to judge…..
Hugs and PeAcE!

Judy,

Go ahead and tell her what ‘else’ was in the package I sent ya, Miss Motorthread. :)

You’re never gonna live this one down, kiddo.

IT’S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING……….YOU GUYS HAD 400 YEARS OF FUN IT’S OUR TURN NOW!!!!

kanye west was joking when he made those comments.

second, we chastise “suzy black girl” all the time for dying her hair blonde, and we’ve also criticized our black women AND men for chemically treating their hair to make it straight when it’s natural state is to be “nappy”. you’ve never known we do that? that we can’t stand the self-hatred we see in our own people that has been fostered by hundreds of years of a system’s process to instill in us the idea of our our own wretchedness, our failure to meet white standards of beauty? did u even know black women have to chemically treat their hair to make it straight?

to me, this shows how WHITE you are; you’ve lived your whole privileged life completely ignorant of even these basic elements of my black culture and our communal discussions. but that’s part of what’s awesome about being white; how you can live in a world that was built with your interests at heart, and grow up in it blissfully unaware of the pains i’ve felt every day of my life that exist for me specifically because i am Black. i know all about white america; it is virutally synonymous with “america”. it is everywhere i look and it is everywhere i go. so ask yourself how it is that you know so little about black america except for rap lyrics?

as to double standards; you are right. it is NOT okay for black people to make fun of white people. it is not okay for us to say “honkey” or “cracker”, in rap lyrics or in comedy or wherever. good luck trying to change the trend, though. but yes, white person, it is not fair. for my part, i don’t condone the use of such language on the part of any person, and many black people are just like me, and fight against it. did u know that? does it make u feel better? i hope so. we are not a monolith. we don’t all just unite and gang up on the white man.

now. let’s do some thinking about this. the important question to me is “why are these black people so angry at white people?” why do we say such things? why do so many of us seem to be carrying around a bitter attitude, as one poster has called it?

this is very important because secretly, there is no one in america filled with more bitterness and rage than the african-american. i don’t think white people yet have an idea of the rage that we’ve secretly had to walk around with here in this country for the last 300-400 years. people like to think we’re just whining about slavery and blaming white people for whatever’s wrong in our lives, as if slavery was the only thing that happened to black people in america.

black people are angry because they are a PERMANENT SOCIAL UNDERCLASS. period. they were brought and kept here to be the MEANS by which YOU could have a better life. we slaved so that the slavemaster’s descendants and other True Americans could grow up in sterile and safe suburban communities. you, if you are a white person, are the reason my people had and kind of continue to have SECOND-CLASS CITIZENSHIP. we walk around in a world of shit that white people put us in and left us to rot. there will never be reparations. there will never be justice for that. it just is what it is. i feel like i SHOULD be full of RAGE. we don’t spend all day blaming white people for our current problems, but neither are we so mature that we can let go of the emotions we feel. it’s hard.

it’s human nature for the poor to have negative feelings toward the rich. complicating it is the history of injustice and genocide. so now we’re stuck with this preoccupation, this obsession with the white man. this hatred. i find myself unable to NOT think about the white man, to think about race in virtually every aspect of everything i see. and i didn’t even grow up in the ghetto.

i know what is is to have a good life because my father was a marine in Nam and went to college. i grew up in the suburbs with all the WHITE PEOPLE. but most of my people grew up in the WORST POSSIBLE PLACES TO LIVE. i know what a difference it makes to have the opportunities that rich people have. it makes a huge difference. and too often, black has meant poor and white has meant rich, at least to black people. when we say “white people have THIS, white people have THAT”, we really mean RICH people, but for us, we are often unable to separate the two. so we grow up seeing white people running the country. we grow up seeing the life they get to have, where everything we want we seem to have to go through white people to get it, and it sucks. everyday. in a thousand ways. our whole lives.

i can’t even see my favorite artists have success until they change their whole style up to sell to the mainstream aka white audience. my favorite actors like terrence howard or halle berry or samuel jackson; they are in black movies for 10 years before they finally get white people to go see them in a movie. why? white people see blacks in the commercial and they go “oh. it’s a black movie. not for me.” so halle berry isn’t shit until she gets naked in “swordfish” and “monster’s ball”. and terrence howard is nothing until white people like him as a damn pimp in “hustle and flow”. then he’s an american star. that disgusts me. and that’s one silly example of things i’ve felt in every area of my life since i was a child. all because of the group i identify with.

so we just live in a white world. u probably don’t see it as a white world. with all my heart i feel that it IS. u probably see it as increasingly a place where these whiny blacks, who you’ve never really been around to get to know your whole life, are getting more and more bold and uppity. well, you’re right.

we have the power these days to not just hold in our anger anymore. now, we can get somebody fired if they talk about us wrong. i wish we had REAL power, but if this is what we have, at least it’s something. i think it has white people nervous. it’s mostly a lack of understanding and YES a feeling of injustice. but it’s partly a guilty conscience you feel. you know JUST why we are pissed. now what if we start acting more like malcolm x than dr. king? that would really start scaring america. lucky for you, we’ve always been pretty non-violent even in the face of the gross atrocities that targeted us. so we’ve gained a couple political weapons that we can use and it’s rubbing you the wrong way. overall, we’re still on the bottom, unorganized, poverty-stricken, and under-educated. if hearing “honkey” sometimes and seeing don imus get fired is all that happens to your people, i’d say you’re still coming out ahead.

so i like that you asked these questions. you sound like a good person, curious and not full of racist anger. cool. i’ve tried not to attack you, but rather to explain. you are right to stand up for what you believe in; you should never let people scare you out of speaking. if you think something is wrong, you should say it, or else nothing gets solved.

sounds good.

Hi jon…

the important question to me is “why are these black people so angry at white people?” … why do so many of us seem to be carrying around a bitter attitude, as one poster has called it? … this is very important because secretly, there is no one in america filled with more bitterness and rage than the african-american… black people are angry because they are a PERMANENT SOCIAL UNDERCLASS.

I’d like you to suspend judgement for a minute. Read what you just wrote, right there in italics.

Black people are angry because they are a permanent social underclass….

You talked about white living in their own world, unaware of what you go through. But aren’t you doing the same?

Look at women in Iraq and Iran and those countries. Women who get gang raped and then get flogged for being caught with a man they’re not related to. Flogged for getting raped. Yes, this actually happens. In this day and age.

What about the Jews that were murdered and their bodies thrown into piles like garbage.

There is no end to human suffering.

Look around you. Did you know 60% of the homeless in America are women and children? There are white women who find their children’s dinner in a garbage bin some days. Are they better off because they are white. And that rapper dude with the bling is still worse off because he’s black.

What about the little girls who are still married off to someone 30 years older because their culture says that fathers are allowed to sell their daughters into marriage. That still happens today, too.

What about little runaway white girls kidnapped off the streets and sold into prostitution rings and tied to the bed while they are raped. That still happens today, too. Go type ‘atlanta prostitution’ into Google and see how privileged some of those little white girls are.

Pain and suffering has nothing to do with race or color, and if you think it does, you do everyone a dis-service, blacks included.

IMHO, the biggest problem with humans is that they all want to think “their” suffering is worse than anyone elses. Blacks have it worst. No, the jews did. No, the women did. No, the homeless do. No, the abused do.

Maybe it’s time for people to put the anger away. It serves no purpose other than to foster more hate and more self pity and reverse racism.

Pain and suffering is pain and suffering.
It doesn’t come with a paintbrush, my friend.