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Tucker Chapman. Hero or Hustler?

Tucker Chapman PhotoHere’s the story:

    Lawyer: Bounty Hunter’s Son Sold Tape
    By JAYMES SONG – 2 days ago
    HONOLULU (AP) — Television bounty hunter Duane “Dog” Chapman’s son taped a private phone conversation in which the reality star used a racial slur repeatedly, then sold it to a tabloid for “a lot of money,” Chapman’s lawyer said Thursday.”
    I guess because of whatever level of anger he had of his father, he felt the need to express it in that manner,” attorney Brook Hart told The Associated Press.
    Tucker Chapman could not be reached for comment; no one answered the telephone at a Honolulu number listed under his name.
    The National Enquirer on Wednesday posted on its Web site a clip of a conversation in which Duane Chapman, star of the hit A&E series “Dog the Bounty Hunter,” repeatedly used the N-word in reference to Tucker’s girlfriend.
    Chapman later apologized to his son and the woman, then learned about how the tape got into the tabloid’s hands, Hart said.”

Read the rest here.

Here are the issues, as I see them.

  • We don’t know anything about the girlfriend or her character, or the dynamics between her and the family. We know that Dog has stated he doesn’t have a problem with her color, but rather, her character. 
  • We know that Tucker is not a regularly featured character on the show, but does work in the family business.
  • We know that Dog thought he was speaking in private.
  • We know that Tucker sold the tape for a large amount of money, and clearly planned the situation otherwise he’d not have been taping it.
  • We know that Tucker is now not taking calls.
  • We know that there is no way a conversation of that nature would only be a minute long in entirety, and that clearly only the parts that would be damning are being aired.
  • We know that a lot of money was involved. Oh.. I already said that.  Indeed.

So is Tucker some little-known hero, outing a big bad racist in order to save the world from a man who would risk his own freedom to go to Mexico to find an American rapist who drugged women, raped them and then fled to a country that would allow him to escape justice for those crimes, or does it look like he’s a hustler who perhaps might have been seeking money and fame that he wasn’t getting from the show, like Leland, for example?

I’m just provoking a fracas here. You tell me what you think.

And please… don’t be worried about “hogging my blog” or posting long posts. I don’t mind. Hog away.

Addendum:

Monique Shinnery, Tucker Chapman's Girlfriend PhotoI’ve just located the whole conversation, not just the “Dog’s a racist” minute being played by most media. In it, we learn about why Dog doesn’t like the girlfriend. Gee… I can’t imagine why they didn’t release all of this up front.

5 minute version of the Dog Chapman/Tucker Chapman phone call.

Fracas’ opinion…

Sometimes poor decisions are made by those who think they’re madly in love. Love is blind. Indeed.

[Photos credit: The link above]


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Aaaaahhhh. I should know better than to post. Here is what I see.

– Said girlfriend was supposedly hooked up with National Enquirer to tape Dog making “racial slurs” because she knows they use the word in their office.

– Dog said to his son; “I don’t care if she’s a Mexican, a whore, whatever. It’s not ’cause she’s black. It’s because we use the word “nigger” sometimes here…”

– Dog said to his son; It’s not that they’re black. It’s none of that. It’s that we use the word “nigger.” We don’t mean “you f-ing scum nigger without a soul.” We don’t mean that sh*t, but America would think we’re meaning that.

– Dog’s son lied like a sidewalk and said no one is going to sell anything to the enquirer. Then he sold out his Dad. I heard he got $15,000 for the tape.

My opinion?

1) If “nigger” is a racial slur, then black dudes need to quit saying it like it makes them part of a club that white people can’t join – because THAT is racist, too.

And I’m as sick of reverse racism as black people are of the racism they live with. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Decide if it’s a damn racial slur or not. If it is, quit saying it while saying whites can’t. Like I said before, you didn’t see Jews stamping stars on each other’s bodies and laughing about it but screaming when Nazis did it. Wrong was wrong.

2) Any son who sells out his DAD is scum. No matter what color he is. Good and bad aren’t a color thing.

Gah.

Comment by Linda

The part that gets me is how Dog explains the whole “it’s not her color, it’s her, because other family members are scared of her, didn’t want to be around her… and she’s threatened Beth, etc. etc,” and Tucker’s response is to call the other family members psycho and dismiss all that. Because “love” is blind… especially that 7 month kind.

$15,000 isn’t enough to do squat with, let alone sell out your dad and make sure your whole family gets screwed too. I also read that Tucker was in jail for drugs up until spring/summer of ‘06 and Dog helped him when he got out.

I understand why he said they use the word ‘nigger’ at work. On the show, they often use the language of the people they’re looking for. It makes sense if you look at the WHOLE picture, not just the one minute that got played for the world to judge him as.

In this 5 minutes, he clearly explains that it’s not because of her color, but because of her behaviour and how it’s affecting the family.

It’s clear Tucker isn’t happy because he wants his cake and to eat it to. Only a lame-ass hustler would think $15,000 is worth what he just did to a lot of people. Likely, the girl will dump him down the road and he’ll be left with nothing.

Comment by fracas

…you forgot the N.A.A.C.P., Black Expos, and fraternal organizations that are race based for cops, firemen, postal carriers…

Comment by John

John… you’re forgetting that I was born a blonde again. Where did I forget them?

Comment by fracas

[...] Celebrity photos, celebrity gossip – CelebritySnap wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt [ Tucker Chapman Photo]Here’s the story: Lawyer: Bounty Hunter’s Son Sold Tape By JAYMES SONG – 2 days ago HONOLULU (AP) — Television bounty hunter Duane “Dog” Chapman’s son taped a private phone conversation in which the reality star used a racial slur repeatedly, then sold it to a tabloid for “a lot of money,” Chapman’s lawyer said Thursday [...]

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It is a pleasure to read rational people.

I am a fan of Dog The Bounty Hunter and will remain one no matter what.

As far as Tucker. Tucker was in jail for drugs. When Dog was called to Bond him he refused. Perhaps that is the payback of why Tucker did what he did.

Dog tried to help Tucker before, but he did what he did and at that point Dog could not do anything to help him. But he DID help him when he got out and kept in touch with him while he was in jail. I saw all of this on the show.

I heard the five minute tape last night. It makes a big difference from what is being flung around on the TV and on the web. I am not saying he is right or wrong. It was a private conversation and I am sure that any one of us would not like some of our private conversations plastered all over the place.

IF A&E fires them, I pray that another station is smart enough to pick them up.

In any case I have the DVDs for years one, two and three, so can still watch when i want. I am really upset over this. They have been through enough with that Andrew Luster thing. People forget all about how they put their lives on the line each day and deal with the scum of the earth. Looks like they have one as their relative!

Sorry to be rambling.

And yes it is true, he not only screwed Dog, but the entire family and Tim’s family as well. But they are all bounty hunters and bondsmen and they can still work, but it is not the same. I know in my heart that they are all very unhappy right now, but I also know that they will come out better in the end. You get to know people when you watch them often enough on the TV – in a reality show. Some things can’t be made up and one knows when they are real. They are good people. This entire thing should not have ever happened!

I wish someone would start a petition to get A&E to put them back on. First I read production was halted and then I read that the show was cancelled. But the A&E site still says halted.

Roz

Comment by Roz

That is messed up how Dog was going off like that with the n word. I put up a video showing how I feel about the whole thing. It has some extra footage of this bull…._and the story of how he became a bounty hunter. The video is called “ Dog Duane Chapman Bounty Hunter “N” Word – Talking With Dave #4”. It’s at
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4oC8OgFkd38
My videos are kind of…. Different.

Edit – David’s YouTube videos are him as the “anchor” only he ain’t anchoring a news show, rather a toilet seat. Watch if you want to.. you’ve been forewarned. (or maybe that’s forlorned?) – Fracas (see I can copy and paste too David.)

Comment by DavidSpates

Pity your comments weren’t different.

You’d think you’d maybe change a word or two so the copy and paste job wasn’t quite so obvious. *rolls eyes*

Nighty night

Comment by Linda

This mess is like the one we are having with our Son right now and his whore girlfriend….
As for Dogs son, the little scumbag sold out his family, now that’s what I’m talking bout, no loyalty what so ever,That’s what our future holds…..

It’s ok for famous persons of color to say this:
I love black people, but I hate niggers. — Chris Rock
But not for white people…. this pisses me off really’

whatever I don’t really care what a person calls me as long as they call me to supper LOL LOL LOL
hugs

Comment by Judy

Anyone else hear Dog say if Lisa brought home a black guy we’d all say “fuck you?”

Doesn’t this sound a wee bit racist?

As for Tucker being in jail for drugs, Dog was convicted of murder and spent time in prison for it. If your going to judge the son, judge the father too otherwise the point is really irrelevant.

I’ve watched Dog and I enjoy his show and I respect what he has done thats been spot on. But this little episode is like taking a quick peek at what lies underneath.

Maybe dog has some inner checking to do. at least two of his sons are not associating with Delisa (sp?) the one Tucker calls psycho. Mabey somethings going on here that Dog can’t or won’t see.

I loved this part of the tape:

Dog: I seen a black girl girl in the car and I didn’t know it was your girlfriend

Tucker: You seen her now dad
Dog: yes, I seen the back of her head…

Oh well then Sherlock it had to be Monique right? I mean a black nappy head, is a black nappy head right? (rolling my eyes in case you can’t tell)

I think there is a lot about this story we don’t know yet. Its terribly unfortunate for Dog’s family to be thrown into the spot light like this, but you know bigger than life people go through this chit, and you know who actually benefits at the end of the day? We all do, because it starts us thinking about our own situations and it starts conversation and debate. And thats good.

One last thing, “selling out his dad?” His dad sold him out first.

Comment by Hazel

I first heard the short version and just now got to hear the long version of this phone conversation between Tucker and Mr. Chapman.

I hear a Father disciplining a son(Tucker Chapman)whose girlfriend(Monique Shinnery)was making threats and stirring up problems between the family members.

Every family has at one time or another gotten on to their children who were hanging around people who were a bad influence.

It is extremely obvious Mr. Chapman was very correct in his assessment of the whole situation concerning his son Tucker and his girlfriend Monique.

While Mr. Chapman is talking to his son the very son whose is recording this conversation is lying to his Dad on this tape about his girlfriend Monique’s intentions.
BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT JUST HIS GIRLFRIENDS INTENTIONS ~ OBVIOUSLY!!!

Shame on A&E & Black leaders for getting involved and promotion a rebellious son.

Comment by KRISTI

Hazel: I think you’re being overly sensitive and narrowing in on only certain words. I’ve gone and listened to the tape several times, with your post in front of me to see what was said.

Dog: I seen a black girl girl in the car and I didn’t know it was your girlfriend

Tucker: You seen her now dad
Dog: yes, I seen the back of her head…

Oh well then Sherlock it had to be Monique right? I mean a black nappy head, is a black nappy head right? (rolling my eyes in case you can’t tell)

Dog is explaining that he saw a black girl but didn’t know it was Tucker’s GF, but because Delisa was with her and said that’s who it was, that’s how he knew. How did you not hear that part? To make the whole nappy headed thing leap is kind of not like you Hazel. It made sense to me. Delisa said it was Monique. Dog didn’t make an assumption because of any “nappy head,” he put 2+2 together. Black girl in car.Delisa said it was Monique therefore must be Monique because Monique is black and indeed, he saw a black girl

So stop rolling your eyes now, lol… that must hurt already.

Regarding the whole “If Lisa brought home a black guy” thing. Again, I listened to the tape again. He explained that in the call. He referred to what the definition of “nigger” means… not that they’re a nigger because they’re black, but “nigger” in the sense that the community he serves uses that word… to mean someone who isn’t behaving right… he said if she brought home someone like that they’d all say fuck that. As a parent, I know what he means. I’ve been there. Your kid brings home someone that does wrong things and causes the family to fight, causes bad things to happen amongst everyone… and as a parent you want that to stop. Dog is guilty for sure, of handliing things poorly, of not being able to articulate properly, in a respectable manner. I think though, if people listen with an open mind they’d see what he was trying to say.

I don’t care if Tucker was in jail for drugs, I’d not judge him for that at all. Drugs can suck in anyone… even the best of people. My point by mentioning that, was that Dog was trying to help Tucker. Seems to me, that Tucker made poor decisions based on a romance that obviously isn’t a healthy one. He won’t be the first nor the last person to ever do that.

In the tape Dog also says that Leland is freaked out by Tucker’s girlfriend, and that he knows Monique has been planning to cause trouble for the family. Leland? Heck.. if the girl freaks out Leland, I’d worry too. That kid is a tough cookie, and seems like a pretty good egg. Tucker denies that because he thinks Monique loves him too much to do that. From the rest of the information, it seems that Tucker is a little blinded to see what’s really happening. He obviously then chose to go along with Monique’s plan and sell a tape to the tabloid. Well… didn’t he clue in THEN? If it wasn’t true and she wasn’t going to do that… then how come he ended up involved in it? So I guess Dog was telling him the truth about her plans and he just chose to think with his heart penis. Sorry, but I can add too. 2+2=4 and no one in 7 months, knows anyone good enough to make such drastic decisions that will last forever, as what Tucker and Monique did.

I don’t think Dog sold him out first. I think Dog was doing what I as a parent, have even done…. tried to show a child what the person they’re with is really about, and laid down a line about what the family would put up with and what they won’t. I’ve done it. You have to. It doesn’t always go your way. Sometimes they still choose the boyfriend/girlfriend, but you have to have a stand about what kind of behaviour you’ll allow in your family and your home. If the child chooses not for your standards, as a parent, you’re sad (even devastated) but you can’t compromise what you believe and allow your children to do as they please to the family just because you don’t want to lose them. If my child had a relationship with someone that was causing what Dog said this girl was causing, I’d have to tell my kid they needed to go work somewhere else too. I’d do exactly what he did… offer to help them get another job, but say they can’t continue to bring threats and stuff to my family. It’s their choice, and they have to live with their choices, and a parent has to be the tough one to make them learn that, otherwise you haven’t done your job as a parent. Good parenting doesn’t mean you always win or that your kids don’t reject you, it means you teach the lessons that have to be taught even if it means you as a parent lose something too.

Tucker didn’t like the choice because he wanted to have his cake and eat it too, so he sold the tape and ruined his family.

Hazel, I don’t post more than generalities about my personal life. If you don’t understand why I have this opinion, you can email me and I’ll try be more help than this.

Sad thing is.

I guarantee that Monique and Tucker will not be together long… and that later, Dog will forgive his son.

I’ve been there too. It’s what parents to. Forgive their kids for the bad shit they do while they’re growing up and thinking they’re “in love”.

Comment by fracas

*sigh* I’m doing it again.

To me, equality means being equal. As women, if we want pay equality, it means job “X” pays the same whether the person is male or female.

Race equality means the same rules for all races, yes?

So… if a black man told his son “You bring home a nigger (nigger being an attitude) we’ll kick your ass” — would he get called a racist?

Or is the label racist reserved for white men who say nigger?

Where’s the equality in that??

Comment by Linda

Exactly Linda.

It’s common knowledge that when a person lives immersed in a certain world, they sometimes find some of that world’s language creeping in. Funny example: When you have teens, sometimes some of their words end up creeping into your own. I was at work and a colleague came into my office and I was telling her a new twist to the project we were on and how it would make her part of the job easier. She, without thinking, replied, “Sweet” and then was embarassed that she’d used that word. I just laughed. (This was a couple of years back when “sweet” was the word everyone said until you thought you’d scream.)

So… someone like Dog, who lives in a world where there is a lot of language the rest of us wouldn’t necessarily choose to use, is bound to be caught using it. How do we, when we have these words that are ok if one color says them but not another, expect people who live in both worlds to not have these words creeping in? I mean… when I first started watching the show, I used to giggle when he’d call people “Bra”. It took me a bit to realize the differences there, and that “Bra” was like “Bro” and that when they talked about “Ice” they meant what we call “Meth” here. So they, in that world, use that language.

What about the kids who go to high schools where there are all races, colors and kinds of people. So you get white kids dressing like, acting like and hanging around with other non-white kids and it’s ok if “they” say something offensive, but then not other white kids who don’t hang with them? Seriously… who will police this to make sure the only people using a term are the ones rightfully allowed to? The kids that dress and act all “Gangsta” at dd’s school are called Wiggers or Wiggas. Why is that ok?

I agree with you totally. If nigger means a bad thing, then blacks ought not to be able to use it either.

Comment by fracas

she is freekin hot!! and i’m white.

Comment by Doc

Dog is just jealious.

Comment by Doc

Although I know it’s hard for people who post comments like that to believe… not every guy in the world thinks with his penile member. As a parent, I generally don’t find the mates of my progeny to be appealing. It isn’t saying much about your opinion of men Doc… if you think Dog would be jealous of or have that kind of thought about his son’s girlfriend.

Geez.

Comment by fracas

I guess I should put this out there, black people don’t use the word “nigger”, we say “nigga” not that it’s much of a difference but it sort of is. And I also didn’t see anything wrong with what he was saying. Now if he sat there saying how she was a dirty “nigger” and he couldn’t be with her because she was black, then it would be a problem. I think people should relax.

Comment by Mesh

You all are a bunch of racist pigs. Of course you think he is justified in saying what he did because you are just like him, a racist. How typical!!!

Comment by Lorrie

Heyyy… we found the name caller. lol.

Mesh, can I be on your team? I think the world would have a lot less problems if people would relax and could talk without getting their underwear in a knot.

Comment by Linda

Rotfl.

Poor Lorrie though, probably thinks calling fracas a pig is original. Not so…

Mal Fenderson beat Lorrie to it!

Boo hoo. I’m just heartbroken.

Comment by fracas

You know, angry people can be sort of like a sideshow.

You can talk calm and normal, and watch them spin and shoot fire from their ears… and you can just about hear them hammering the keyboard within an inch of it’s life.

Kind of makes me want a snowcone. When are the clowns going to show up?

Comment by linda

I do not wish Dog to lose everything, though I personally am hurt by his raciest views. Through his Christian beliefs I would pray that he can get past his bigotry and let go of his ignorant views. I am in an interracial marriage and I can tell you from experiences in dealing with my wife’s family that all people are beholden to their own race and have bigoted views to some extent. Until people break through their own prejudice and mix in with other races they will always be ignorant. Once you break past your own prejudice you see that all people are just the same. For anyone to criticize here is only for people to throw stones in a Glass House. Society has to hold all responsible for racial misconduct. Funny how people point out racism from Don Imus while listening to 50 cents spew the N word hundreds of times over the duration of a rap CD then justify it as Art. There should be one standard for all forms of racism and racial epithets.

Comment by rex

LOL Linda. Some people are scared of clowns though. I think it’s their appearance. GASP.

rex – Yes indeed on the Imus/50cent point. It’s why I created another post about that exact topic. To do the post, I had to sit and read lyrics for hours. I was totally disgusted. The double standard simply has to be dealt with if black people ever want anyone to take them seriously. The lyrics I read were on the same level as the crap spewed out by white supremacists. Vile… yet excused by many black people as ‘art” or “entertainment” etc.

Comment by fracas

Fracas- As long as people are making $$$$ (millions) spewing the N word as Art no one will stop it. People like 50 cents have sold out their own race for $. If people knew the chain of command at the record labels and realized the millions “White” executives are making off of the N word blacks would rise up in millions to have it stopped but because they have mouth piece such as 50 cents out there saying it is OK or it is a black thing black people will not want to look under the mat to see the real dirt making millions off of this so called art. What other race of people use derogatory terms such as the N word or B word or Ho to describe their own people in the name of art? 50 cents is just a puppet used by rich whites to perpetuate stereotypes. What happened to black entertainers like Robert Townsend who fought against these stereotypes in the 80’s through great films like “Hollywood Shuffle”? Has this generation of black entertainers ever seen this film? If they did how would they feel? Do they really think they are getting over on the establishment? Only if they knew it is the establishment such as Viacomm that is getting over on them by perpetuating these stereotypes that lead to black on black crimes and crimes against society in general. Who loses? There are several generations of lost black men who are in prisons or in the grave yards leaving millions of black children to grow up fatherless, why because they want the bling instead of putting life into perspective and wanting to be nothing more than a respectable father or role model for their children. There are millions of hardworking black males who are professionals, doctors, lawyers, educators, ect who’s example in life are over looked for a cheap buck by exploiting black criminals who can rhyme a few words to music. When people understand that true raciesem is color blind than maybe things will change. Until then all we can do is pray. Yes prayer works.

Comment by rex

As long as people are making $$$$ (millions) spewing the N word as Art no one will stop it. People like 50 cents have sold out their own race for $. If people knew the chain of command at the record labels and realized the millions “White” executives are making off of the N word…

You think people link 50 cents use the N word because a white dude tells them to? Or you think they use the N word because they want to?

Do you think the white dudes are telling them to sing the N word or no record contract? I think it’s more like they sing what they want and the recording co gives them a contract because people will pay to hear those songs… and they all make money.

Comment by linda

That is my point- they do it for $$$, not because they were told to do it. The white dude does not have to tell them, just give them a blank check and they will sell out their own people. The people paying the money are no better than what Marxsim describes as “Useful Idiots”. It was “Useful Idiots” who bought into power a form of govt that genocide millions of it’s own people. All you have to do is look at crime and look who makes up most of our prison population and you will see the damage done by these artist and the record/media conglomerates that push this death culture on our country. It may not be a form of politics that is pushing this crap on to our youth, but it is a form of capitalism that is selling out these kids to a life of poverty, crime, and illiteracy. To an extent society is at fault, but at the end of the day personal responsibility has to be accounted for. Corporate responsibility to community needs to be held in account here, but as long as the “Pimps” of this form of entertainment are held in high regard it won’t go away and if you criticize it your branded a raciest or are ostracized like Bill Cosby or other black leaders that speak out against this cancer that has infected the black community.

Comment by rex

if you criticize it your branded a raciest or are ostracized like Bill Cosby or other black leaders that speak out against this cancer that has infected the black community.

That is true. In doing my “homework” about it, i found Cosby ridiculed more than once. I also learned that a black person speaking out against that crap isn’t considered really black.. they have a derogatory term for it… they call them Oreos.

Oreos.. means they might be black on the outside but they’re white on the inside. I found the term at urbandictionary of course, but I also found it in song lyrics.

With attitudes like that, no wonder racism is rampant. There’s a certain portion of the black population that WANTS racism or wants to create/perpetuate it with their own actions… because then they can rap about it, use it for their own fame and make money off of it.

Pure and simple.

You’ve got the blacksentinels… who clearly do care, but they’re being sold out by the blacks that want it to exist because they profit from it by either money or fame or both.

Comment by fracas

David, you would think this. How come you all can say the N….word, write black power and brown power on the back of your cars and also call white people white trash but we say anything and up goes the rase card! I think thats getting a little old!!!

Comment by Dwain

I think that this is all blown out of proportion also. This was a private conversation that Dog was having with his son. His son will one day regret his decision to be greety and take money over the love of a parent. Sometimes parent/child relationships are stressful, but to sell out your own father is pitiful. I hope that the Dog and his family get back on television soon. We are praying for you and your family Dog.

Comment by Christine

The Oreo thing really got me. And it’s true — there is a segment of black society that wants racism… reverse racism.

Black people were wronged by our ancestors. Slavery was abolished in 1865, but in mid 1950’s segregation was still rampant.
Brown vs Board of Ed was 1954. Rosa Parks was 1955.

“Black Power” was a political movement that arose after Stokely Carmichael’s use of the slogn in the “March Against Fear” in the summer of 1966.

As the movement grew, a faction of the members preached segregation in reverse.

The NAACP condemned “Black Power” as a “menace to peace and prosperity and said “no negro who is fighting for civil rights can support black power, which is opposed to civil rights and integration.

Note: NAACP is National Association for the Advancement of Colored People

Martin Luther King said “Black Power” was “unfortunate because it tends to give the impression of black nationalism… black supremacy would be as evil as white supremacy.

The segment of blacks that began to call themselves Black Nationalists said those pursuing civil rights, like Martin Luther King, were ineffective. Black Power was needed.

Today, Black Nationalism – a.k.a black separatism – emphasizes the need for the cultural, political, and economic separation of African Americans from white society.

So… there are blacks who want equality and civil rights… and there are blacks who want black separatism. Black Power.

Thing is…

— the people who enslaved blacks are long dead.
— the Canadians who hid escaped slaves over 100 years ago are dead
— The WHITE people who were jailed right alongside Carmichael for participating in the “Freedom Rides of the Congress of Racial Equality” in the mid sixties are dead or senior citizens.

And today, we live with a double standard where a black man can say Nigger and a white man can’t. And if a white man DOES use the N word…. both black nationalists and black civil rights believers will BOTH shout racist. Why? Because the guy who said it was white.

And wait. If a white company started a television show called WHITE Entertainment Television – we’d be hung out to dry as racist pigs. But it’s okay for B.E.T.

We live with a double standard. And that’s wrong.
And two wrongs don’t make a right.

(slinks off the soapbox and scurries into the corner)

Comment by linda

Gettin’ down wit’ ‘inda!!

Wasup my bamboobsta mamasan? Can ‘e b’ gibben iMan soom skinond’ han’, likes meh wanz iT nowzOr?

Show all of ya some soul that’ll send your chicken wings flyin’ back to the motha country without postage, yes undeed!

Comment by John

Hi fracas you asked me;

Dog is explaining that he saw a black girl but didn’t know it was Tucker’s GF, but because Delisa was with her and said that’s who it was, that’s how he knew. How did you not hear that part?

Oh I heard that part just fine – I also heard Tucker claim Dog was being misled and lied to by Delisa and that Delisa is the only reason Dog thinks the woman they were speaking of was Monique. Tucker maintains Monique wasn’t even there at the time all of this was supposedly taking place.

I just listened to it again, all that you’re saying about Leland being freaked out by Monique? Its NOT monique Leland is freaked out by its his own sister Delisa! Listen again starting at 3:45 minutes in. Delisa told Dog the “black girls head, back of” that dog saw was moniques. Tucker claims Monique wasn’t there and its a mistaken thing actually its a lie according to Tucker.

At 1:35 Tucker describes how she (Delisa) is scaring the other brothers too. at 55 seconds left he describes how Delisa is “weird” “Dude that girl slept at lelands house when Leland was out of town…

Dog concedes and even says they aint no more {talking) Leland is freaked by his own sister and won’t have anything to do with her.

I’ve listend to it a few times now. Whatever is going on in that family at this moment in time is way bigger than the N word, or even racism, its about something in the family.

This next statement is way out in left field, I have nothing to base it on but hind sight and instinct but just for one second consider that Tucker is telling the truth, that all this drama’s been cooked up by an unstable family member. Who knows why maybe Delisa is jealous maybe she has issues with race, maybe she’d liked to have dated a black guy at one point but knew she’d get told to F off and face what Tucker is now facing. I don’t know whats behind all this but I can tell you imho whats happening with the dog pound is more to do with family issues than it does anything else and this whole racism thing? Is just taking time away from the real issues. A family that is more concerned with how America sees them, then how their own kids do.

Thats what bugs me about the whole thing more than any other thing.

Also you mentioned,
To make the whole nappy headed thing leap is kind of not like you Hazel.

Sure it is ;)

frac on.

Comment by Hazel

John – Chicken wings buffalo style, extra hot. Not that wussy stuff that some people think is hot. The kind that makes most people’s eyes tear up before they hit the tonsils, even. Actually, jerk chicken would be even better. But not Americanized jerk. The real stuff.

(an’ no, I’m not calling anyone names. Jerk chicken is food)

*sigh*

Half the time, that man makes NO sense to me.
The other half, I jest don’t git it… *sigh*

Comment by linda

I’ll listen again Hazel, paying attention to what you said.

I think we agree that this whole thing is more about dysfunction than racism. I think I said that back somewhere.

I guess that’s why I’m giving the benefit. Heck… he has fraccing ten times the kids I do and I know that when my 3 are acting up all at the same time, I’m not terribly coherant myself. I can only imagine what it must be like to have as many as him and have all this crap going on.

I don’t know if I think he cares more about how America sees him than his kids. I think he’s a guy who has a fraccing heap of kids who depend on him for their livlihoods as well as his own, and he’s freaking out about losing their livlihoods.

I think the real issues are that he’s had little to do with the raising of most of the older of his children and it’s hard after the fact, to bring all these different sibs together (from differing moms too0 and expect things to be just rosy. Heck.. in large families where all the sibs are from the same parents and have been raised together, you can get that. His situation must be just ridiculous. On top of that… he then brings them all into the business to try help each one of them benefit from what he’s built.

See… to me, that shows that he does care about them. Lots of people wouldn’t do that with kids they didn’t raise.

I think he cares but is also a person who hasn’t had the best of rearing himself and so doesn’t always know the right thing to do.

I guess… that’s what I see so I give the benefit of the doubt.

Comment by fracas

Linda… I’m just killing myself here.

You mean John? Oh heck… he makes nothing but sense. You just have to turn your head sideways to read. I think it’s the underwear. His must be just a tad too tight. Or maybe it’s the tampons? You know, those can be a bit uncomfortable.

(No, it isn’t National Drunk Blogging Day… but Sylvie did suggest that we were all a little mad….)

Comment by fracas

ok, on that note. i am TIRED of people complaining about black people being able to use the “n” word without it being called racist. IT IS, WHAT IT IS… i don’t understand the complaint……. are people complaining because they want to equally be able to use the word too?? i don’t get it. in my circle of friends, we don’t say stuff like that .. & in my opinion only lower class, uneducated people do, like “dog the bounty hunter”. it is no surprise to me AT ALL… let the lower class keep the “n” word, who cares.

Comment by donna

1. I have lots of friends of several races.
2. My fiancee grew up in a racisist town in Texas.
3. We have been discriminated against both because of his race and by us being together ( he is 1/2 Hispanic and I am white)…the worst being when a hispanic cashier at a McDonalds told him he should be with someone of “His own race”.
4. I even have sevaral friends from Hawaii.

that being said…my Hawiian friends told me 15yrs ago.. that their defination of the “N” word differs from the racial slur in that to them it refers to a trouble maker that sees nothing wrong in trashing all of the family and friends of their target to furhter their own ends, whether it be by slander or even physical violence. Also, usually this stems from a deep seated emotional insecurity of their own upbringing. what I would like to know is how we can judge someone like “DOG” who has worked so hard to turn his own life around, just based upon a jealous and selfish little boys temper tantrum that he threw because daddy said no..no, I will not pay good money to get u out when u have bluntly told me u have no intention of changing the negative behavior that got u in there in the first place. If Tucker had shown his dad any indication of improving his behavior “DOG” and even Beth would have helped him…this is all just revenge, and a child’s temper tantrum and should be treated as such.

Comment by Misha

i am TIRED of people complaining about black people being able to use the “n” word without it being called racist. IT IS, WHAT IT IS… i don’t understand the complaint……. are people complaining because they want to equally be able to use the word too?? i don’t get it.

I used to work in a school and saw a Dad called in because his little boy had hit another kid. The Dad marched into the office, smacked his kid upside the head, and said “Don’t hit people.”

It’s the same thing. There are black people who say the word “nigger” is unacceptable — but use it themselves. If white people use it, they call us racist. If the word is unacceptable, then they should show that by not using it.

When women were fighting for equal pay, lots of parents (including Moms) back in the 50’s shrugged and said “it is what it is” and accepted the status quo. They weren’t the ones that affected change. Change comes from those who don’t accept what “is.”

Comment by linda

I am a big fan of the show….I think that Dog is a outstanding citizens and made a big mistake. He should not be punished for a private conversation that he had with his son. I am not a racist myself but everyone is entitled to there own thoughts and did anyone ever hear of freedom of speech. I dont think that the show she be turned off the air. I love Dog and family and every thing that they do. He is truly a hero in my eyes and the eyes of many others…..

Comment by Emily

It is obvious that Dog has marginal relationships with most of his older children. From Dog’s description the whole family is quite disfunctional.

In any case, the use of the “N” word in this day and age is totally inappropriate, especially to anyone who is in the public eye. I can think of only one reason someone would use that word. Racist.

It didn’t sound to me that the problem was her character. If that were the case he wouldn’t have said anything about Lyssa dating a “N” and that if she did the family would say “F you”. I think he made his position quite clear and now he is paying the price. He has lost it all.

What goes around comes around.

Comment by kristina

Hi fracas, I completely get the big blended family thing, thats kinda why I think there may be something serious going on with the siblings.

Donna, i totally and completely agree.

I can’t get into the whole they said we said the N word debate. It is tiresome. I’m a big proponent of freeing up the language including being able to use words like bitch and other words. IMO You can use whatever words you have to to get your point across, if your point is stupid, racist. sexist or otherwise that’ll come across no matter what terminology is used.

Freedom of speech and all that.

Emily, so is Michael Jackson ( a hero to many) doesn’t change the fact he’s seriously effed up.

Comment by Hazel

Plus what Kristina said! Re Moniques character.

Comment by Hazel

If all of us were held accountable for our private conversations we all would be in prison (according to the “Thought Police”)- white, black, brown, what ever. The debate is not weather or not people can use the N word, Freedom of Speech guarantees it for everyone until Hate Crime Legislation controls our thoughts and we all could end up in prison for our thoughts or ideology- a bigger threat to all of mankind. The debate is in what context. Entertainment Media Corps are making millions off of the use of the N word and people are paying for it. It is NOT ok for a white person to use it in a public forum- but it is OK for a white person to buy a rap CD and have a black man spew the N word for him out of his speakers for the rest of the world to hear it. Why? Entertainment? Do black entertainers think that the white people who buy their rap music hear the N word any different than the white raciest who uses it as a derogatory term against blacks? Think about it- why does anyone for any reason use this word to describe themselves or their own people? Are their white entertainers making millions off of calling their own people “White Trash”? Or off of calling their mothers, sisters, daughters, friends, wives, girlfriends, ect HO or Whores? Is there a culture of white people utilizing derogatory terms against their own people, as a matter of fact is there any other culture out there presenting a negative view of their own people through entertainment mediums such as film, music, ect and making millions off of it? Maybe Italians who are exploited by shows like the Sopranos- but you do not hear raciest terms from the Sopranos used to describe their own people in a broad or general base- they are just stereotyped as Mafia. Along with these black entertainers who have sold out their own people using such a raciest and derogatory term to describer their own people are “White” executives making millions off of hip hop and the “Gangta” culture. They defend it as Art. The origins of hip hop are not rooted in self degradation, self loathing, ect. It was rooted in entertainment and party music. It was not until the mid to late 80’s it was high jacked by street thugs promoting a death culture. This has nothing to do with poverty- I am tired of that argument. It has everything to do with justifying a criminal lifestyle with no accountability for personal actions by all criminals, white, black, Latino, ect who holds this genera of music sacred. It is the “Useful Idiots” who buy this crap that are making these sell outs and their “White” Executive masters millions. I am sure the same thing can be said for Heavy Metal Music but that genera dose not cross over cultural bounders as does Rap.

Comment by rex

Alright, when you read Doc’s comment in #15, by saying:

“she is freekin hot!! and i’m white.”

does this not have overtones of being discriminatory and can be interpreted as “even if she is black, she is freekin hot”? Would she still be hot if she was red, yellow, or brown or maybe if Doc was those colors, would it change his opinion. Was it’s Doc’s intetnion on this blog to leave a reader with this observation? I believe as others have written here, Duane Chapman was having a strong and heartfelt “private” conversation with his son and there was no intention to have this public. God help the majority of people in this world who have their every moment and word analyzed. Case in point, a very good friend of mine who engages in making offhand remarks to me which are racist and discrimnatory in nature, and meant to be humerous banter between ONLY he and I, was puzzled a while back when after calling me several offhand comments had got no expected rebuttal. I had to tell hi, that although he knew it was all in fun much like an African American saying the word “n****r” to another, I felt that it might be heard by others, not understood, and misinterpreted. He said’ “com’on bro, I know that you’re playing with me, who cares what they think”. I care! Oddly enough, my friend of skin colour, continued to throw mindless and racist remarks my way in public and he was not only humoured but so were all the people listening and stranger yet, the same people who I felt worry towards in that I knew, very clearly, had I used a comeback, I would have been branded a racist.

Comment by Bill

Hey Rex – a standing applause here. Well put!
quote: Entertainment Media Corps are making millions off of the use of the N word and people are paying for it

I absolutely think this is worth exploring further. There’s a really good PBS program called Beyond Beats & Rhymes Ending Misogyny, that discusses a lot of what you’re speaking of. I think a google search should bring up a podcast somewhere for anyone interested. Try breakdown FM.

As for this question?

is there any other culture out there presenting a negative view of their own people through entertainment mediums such as film, music, ect and making millions off of it?

Yes, feminine culture, female culture, wimmin culture. Whatever you want to call it. Crossing all cultural boundaries women still subjugate other women through many different avenues and ways, The pimp named Pinky busted in the Lower Mainland last year and now facing trial is one example, Imeldos Marcos another, that Coulter person as a third. What about Paris Hilton? Now she scares me.

Comment by Hazel

Dog went to prison for murder. I don’t think anyone with any common sense would be surprised at his choice of words. The man has a black pastor and helps in the inner city with kids of all races. If anyone watched his pastor talk on TV, he has been trying to get him to clean his mouth up for the past year. I hope this is a wake up call for him. He can really change the future of the little ones that he still has at home. He can teach them humility, grace and a better vocabulary. Maybe this can be a lesson for Tucker on how to change a negative behavior. Whatever, comes of it this man has helped take many criminals off the streets and tried to make a difference in their lives, that doesn’t mean his perfect. Instead of people bashing him maybe they should reach out to him.

Comment by Heather

I came across this blog while searching for info on this incident which interests me as a person from Hawaii and as such, like most of us born in the islands, have every racial background represented in my family; I have a few points of interest to add to this discussion.

I’d like to point out that Duane Chapman is from the mainland and does not represent the culture or people of Hawaii in any way shape or form. The lingo that he tries to use that some of you referred to in previous posts is called pidgin and has deep roots in the local culture. Mr. Chapman mispronounces both the words and the accent 90 % of the time.

As far as his racial slurs, there is no excuse for that, I listened to the long version of the tape and it sounded like he was saying the n word then trying to excuse himself in case he got caught. He could have said anything about her character and pretty much got away with it but he chose to not only use the n word but use it in the most derogatory pronunciation. Everyone knows that even people of color don’t say it like that. He used it in that “Mighty Whitey” superiority complex kind of way.

In Hawaii we don’t have the P.C racial hang-ups like the rest of the country seems to have, we make fun of each other all the time without malice but yet we’re still ashamed of what he did while he claims to represent us and love our culture he is insulting to our people and members of our families who are of many mixed ancestries including black and it’s sad.

Comment by Lori

Thanks for sharing your view as a resident of Hawaii. I think you meant me when you referred to someone talking about him using the lingo. I’d done some searching the other day, and found the term pidgin, but then after searching pidgin and reading some of the examples, I knew that’s not what I was looking for because indeed, he doesn’t use those expressions much. I meant that he uses street language… not necessarily that he uses pidgin because (and please correct me if I’m wrong) what I read about pidgin made me think that it’s not really the language of street people, rather the language of locals. I understand that. Everywhere has their own “speak” and it’s not necessarily what street people from that area use either.

Hope that makes sense. I’d bookmarked a site or two on pidgin and wanted to go back to read more. Having a sis in Australia and being Canadian speaking English that still makes others sometimes wonder what even I’m talking about, the whole idea of us speaking English so many different ways is one I’ve always been fascinated with. It started when that sis went off long time ago and began sending home letters with phrases in it I didn’t know what she meant.

Thanks again.

Comment by fracas

OK, clearly people are not getting that DELISA to which they refer and LYSSA are 2 different people. DELISA is some girl that Leland was involved with and is kind of stalking him and LYSSA is Baby Lyssa, daughter of Dog. So, the conversation segment referring to Delisa is not about LYSSA. Am I right?

Comment by Susan

Hi. I’ve been around racist of all colors in my life. I’ve heard racial slurs from Native Americans, blacks, Mexicans, and of course whites. I’ve also seen Dog’s messed up psycology. Most whites from poor backgrounds use the n-word as a way to express dislike for someones character regardless of their color, but usually are accepting and loving of most black people. That said, I do think Dog is racist because he said he wouldn’t let his daughter date a black guy. That’s it, bottomline. His son is a punk though, I mean that’s his Dad.

Comment by Kevin Meagher

Susan… THANK YOU. I was also confused. Now I need to go listen to the tape again. This makes it make more sense to me.

I indeed, was confused and thought maybe I heard wrong.

You need to stick around here… who knows what else you’ll be able to notice when the rest of us are having a brain fart…. and I mean that sincerely. Thanks for the info.

Comment by fracas

This is such a massive JOKE! First of all, when did this country get so thin skinned? “The N word” bothers me about as much as “honkey” or “cracker”…. get over it people. Second of all, let’s keep in mind that this was a private conversation. Throw a fit, trash his car, whatever…. don’t set your dad up for the nation to judge (which by the way… we have NO right to do!!)

But… eh hem… if I got my turn at judging…. his son is a low-life and stabbed his dad in the back!

Comment by Kit

Money talks and abviously someone recorded.. Lets call a spade a spade, a dog a dog, a chink a chink, a N word a N word…Ut oh.. sue me. Hey words are words and it is just like cracker, afro american, spic, canuck (thats a white french, german- i think). God, I feel like a Mexican, English teacher going into afganistan and picking those nice beautifull flowers that make us all feel fuzzy inside. Read this now and repent.. Jesus might be Arab..Wow…. opinions…wow..thank god and achccbar, or someting . Hey, with all the word slingling watch this one…….Retards ,,, (which i have a a mentally imbalanced brother, by the way doesn’t offend me) We need more in this world cuz (thats slang for because) we are so stupid if we are offended by a single word, really a single word..

Fuck

Comment by Coltman

Hey Tucker, If I was you Dad, I would have let Leland use your girlfriend as a Surf-board… in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba of course, because there not racist down there. Hey, make a life for your self….sorry, i am getting mean now…Sorry Dog you the Man!

Comment by coltman

canuck is a canadian. :)

Comment by linda

Hey it’s all G..lol

The street people that he picks up speak pidgin fine there are a bunch of different dialects of pidgin itself.
Country pidgin, “Townie” pidgin, outer island pidgin but it’s all based the same.

Leland and the little ones speak pidgin like the rest of the locals, it only sounds funny when Dog, Beth, and Tim try to do it..lol

In any case I’ve been told that the reason that the n word is so offensive when it comes from a white person to a black person esp. in that pronunciation is because in the past that is most likely the last thing every black person that was beaten and or lynched by white people heard before he or she died.

Comment by Lori

This boy does not realize what he has done here. He single handed ruined any trust from any of his family for life. Even if he and his dad work things out, this will always be hanging in the background. As for racial,,,,,,,,well, just listen how they talk about whites and we just suck it up. I get a litte fed up with them always pulling the racial card. Dog is half Native American and his eldest son is married to a Mexican. No racist there. I will remain a loyal follower to this show and hope AETV has sense enough to realize they are wrong to be in a private converstation with father and son……while off work. He will never be able to trust his boy again. This is number one reality show……….AETV better think it overe.

Comment by P. Richarts

ROTFLMAO Colt, your a gem!

Comment by Hazel

ROTFLMAO Colt, you’re a gem!

Comment by Hazel

oops coltman. Where my fraccin coffe?

Comment by Hazel

P. Richards Oh good lord, I’m half a whatever so I cants be a racist. Get over that argument right now. I can’t tell you how many half this or half that has said the same thing while harboring a hatred of full this or full that. ridiculous. Its as silly as saying hey i’m not a racist my best friends a Jew, (black Native pick yer poison) after using the term kyke.

Anyone catch the Larry King Live show last night? Dog totally had my heartstrings in his hand. Listen I am not saying Dog’s a bad person, just a bad daddy. And I stand by that. I mean gah the guys got 12 kids from several mothers and how many of them are in prison, just out of prison or on their way back to prison? How’s that for proof in the pudding? Okay so every family has problems, I know that but in such numbers? Holy cow!

Beth, now she’s a gem. I swear its her that holds that family together, and Dog is really truly lucky for that. So’s ALL his kids imho.

Plus, Dog gets up on National tv and says the mother of his first two was trash but the only girl who would give him a chance after getting out of prison. Lovely. hows that supposed to go over with his kids?

Also Tucker isn’t the first of Dog’s kids to go to the tabloids. Why do his kids want to do this to him? Don’t tell me its all about money, its more than that. If the kids need money, wouldn’t dog help them out? Its about something else. Possibly the truth.

PS Susan clears it up, Quote: “DELISA is some girl that Leland was involved with and is kind of stalking him and LYSSA is Baby Lyssa, daughter of Dog.”Quote.

Thats even worse, so Dog took the word of some girl (now ex girlfriend) of his son Leland over the say so of his son Tucker?

An ex leland won’t even have anything to do with?

On Larry King, Dog skirted the subject when Larry brought it up, but it was clear to see he’s hurting over believing the worst about Monique, its clear he knows he was set up and Fkd with by someone outside of Tucker and Monique.
Its clear, the Dog has some issues to work on.

I wish him the best of luck.

Comment by Hazel

Hazel that is so true. His children have gone to the National Inquirer before so your right it is something else. Truth seems to be the word. Interestingly, in most of the comments they forget that Dog tells Tucker that until he breaks up with Monique he can not work for him anymore. Certainly, that is controlling and selfish on Dog’s behalf. Secondly, nobody goes against their parents unless their parents have been unfair or are being wrong. It appears to me that Dog was being manipulative, and punishing his son for dating a black girl. The really rediculous thing is that Dog used the excuse that they use the world nigger in his office and he can’t have everything he worked for get taken. That is the biggest bunch of crap, and his knows it. As much as the Dog lectures his captives on following the rules maybe he should follow rules and set no tolerance standards in his organization thereby making it not okay to use racially destructive words. His son knows that his father is full of crap, and trumped up an excuse to justify his own racism. His son exposed him for it. I see nothing wrong with it. They say don’t judge a book by it’s cover, but in this case the Dog is the really the trash that he portrays on TV. I’m no bleeding liberal, but his low class streat trash persona is a disgrace and embarrassment to the white race. You know it would have been more exceptable if he was drug addict because then there would be a reason for his inbread,bottom feading cartoon like persona. Luckily their is a writer’s strike, or there would be a skit about this situation on Saturday Night live. What a tool.

Comment by alec

Just one thing, from the transcript, that I think is being interpreted incorretly by Hazel and a couple of others:

“If Lyssa was dating a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) we would all say (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you. And you know that. If Lyssa brought a black guy home, ya da da — and it’s not that they’re black. It’s none of that. It’s that we use the word (EXPLETIVE DELETED). We don’t mean you scum (EXPLETIVE DELETED) without a soul. We don’t mean that (EXPLETIVE DELETED). But America would think we mean that.”

That whole, “ya da da” part… means, NO BIG DEAL. As in, if Lyssa brought home a black man, NO BIG DEAL. If Lyssa brought home an “N”, then it’s “F*ck you”. He’s clearly trying to show that he makes a distinction between being black and being an “N”.

Entire Transcript:

Dog:
I’m not taking a chance on some mother fucker out there; if she’s a Mexican, a whore, whatever. It’s not because she’s black. It’s because; we use the word nigger sometimes here.
I’m not gonna take a chance ever in life of losin’ every thing I’ve worked for for 30 years, cause some fuckin’ nigger heard us say nigger and turned us into the Enquirer Magazine. Our career is over. I’m not takin that chance at all. Never in life. Never. {tiny pause} Never. If Lisa was dating a nigger we’d all say fuck you and you know that. {tiny pause} If Lisa brought a black guy home {unintelligible}
And it’s not that they’re black, it’s none of that. It’s that we use the word nigger we don’t mean you fucking scum nigger without a soul. We don’t mean that shit. But America would think we mean that.
And we’re not taking a chance on losing everything we’ve got over a racial slur because our son goes with a girl like that. I can’t do that Tucker. You can’t expect Gary, Bonnie, Chesly, all them young kids, {uninelligble} because I’m in love for seven months. Fuck that.
So I’ll help you get another job but you can not work here unless you break up with her and she’s out of your life. I can’t handle that shit.{tiny pause}
I’ve got ‘em in the parking lot trying to record us. I got that girl saying she is going to wear a recorder.

Tucker:
{unintelligible} I don’t even know…

Dog:
The girl said she’s gonna wear a god damn recorder.

Tucker:
No, she didn’t.

Dog:
Your girl was gonna jump Beth one day.

Tucker:
No, she wasn’t even there that day Dad. You can ask any of them. She wasn’t there.

Dog:
I asked everybody. I asked everybody.

(cross talk)

Tucker:
Ask ‘em all again. That’s bullshit.

Dog:
I asked Lisa. I asked Lisa.

Tucker:
Lisa’s a lying fucking…

Dog:
Liar. Lisa said that Beth had a tank shirt on and your girlfriend was gonna fuck with {unintelligible}

Tucker:
She wasn’t even there that day. The day Lisa said that happened, Monique wasn’t even there that day. The last time Monique was any where near that office was during the cruise and that was over a month and a half ago Dad.

Dog:
That’s when it was Tucker. It was a long time ago.

Tucker:
No. Lisa said it was recently. Just a while ago.

Dog:
No she didn’t because we’ve been out of town and she said it was a lot, a month or so ago. {cough, sounds like Dog} It was before we left town and DeLisa was there in the parking lot with the black girl, cause I seen a black girl in a car but I didn’t know it was your girlfriend and Beth had a tanktop on.

Tucker:
You seen her now Dad?

Dog:
I seen the back of her head in the car, yes. In the car with what’s her name. But I didn’t know {unintelligible}

Tucker:
What kind of car does DeLisa got?

Dog:
It wasn’t DeLisa. It was the car that’s parked by my office there.

Tucker:
eh…wait, Monique don’t got a car.

Dog:
No, Delisa does. It’s parked down by my office there. So listen, she says that she’s gonna whip Beth and she goes no, let’s stick to the original plan

Tucker:
{unintelligible}

Dog:
and record her.

Tucker:
That is so. No, Dad. Monique loves me to fucking death. She would never

Dog:
No it doesn’t matter Tucker. You don’t know life. She does not. Yes, she may love you and all that, but she’s gonna get Beth. I mean and I mean I’m not gonna have someone

Tucker:
She doesn’t care, Dad.

Dog:
They’ve made to many statements Tucker. I’m not having it around here.

Tucker:
It’s DeLisa talking to Tim, making crap up. She’s psycho, Dad. She goes over to Duane Lee and Leland, and she’ll call Duane Lee and Duane Lee won’t answer his phone. She’ll sit in front of his house until she sees him. wacko.

Dog:
She ain’t no more. She ain’t no more.

Tucker:
DeLlisa’s a fucking wacko. I cut DeLisa off three months ago, Dad because I wouldn’t take her shit, okay? And I told Monique I don’t care if you hang out with her but I’m not hanging out with her. You don’t have her dropped off at my house. You don’t have her pick you up at my house. You don’t have her do any favor for you when it has to do with me. And this has been going on for three months. Because I told {unintelligible}

Dog:
{unintelligible} I told Theresa the same thing, Duane Lee the same thing

Tucker:
Yeah, well Leland’s still hanging out with her.

Dog:
No he’s not. Lelands fuckin’ freaked out now.

Tucker:
Yeah, well I {unintelligible} I told that Dude she’s weird. Dude, that girl slept in Lelands house when Leland was out of town. He’s {unintelligible} shit.

Dog:
Yeah, well he ain’t no more ’cause last night I laid down the law, and I just. And Duane Lee just called me and said Theresa told that girl to never come by her fucking house again, ’cause I told Duane Lee the same thing. You gonna have your wife hanging around with that girl then you ain’t working for Dog the Bounty Hunter. Duane Lee called this morning and Theresa said we are not hanging around with that girl. So just like Duane Lee, just like you, if you hang around with that black girl I do not want you in my house. Because it’s already been proven that you run your mouth to her. That’s it right there. So you just let me know, I gotta go, what you gon’ do later. Bye.

{fumbling noises}
***End Transcript

Comment by Jenny

Hi Alex, well you already know I tend to agree with you 100%.

Quote: Luckily their is a writer’s strike, or there would be a skit about this situation on Saturday Night live.

Bwahahaaha! O dang you’re right! He is lucky, but i sure would have loved to see what SNL could do with this material.

Jenny you think I’ve misinterpreted the tapes?

Lets see you wrote:

“If Lyssa was dating a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) we would all say (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you. And you know that.
ya da da — and it’s not that they’re black. It’s none of that. It’s that we use the word (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

That whole, “ya da da” part… means, NO BIG DEAL

According to your interpretation.

With all the censorship you can wriggle the meaning around a bit, maybe.

As for Yada Yada Yada it does NOT mean no big deal
In fact (not as per Hazel’s interpretation) its a Jewish word found in the bible to mean to “know” as in Adam Yada’d his wife. Seriously I don’t make this chit up. Check it out

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yada

Modern usage is typified when the person you are talking to ALREADY knows what you’re talking about and actually spelling out what you are talking about, is redundant.

Lets try NOT censoring what the Dog said and see how it stacks up:

“If Lyssa was dating a NIGGER we would all say FUCK you. And you know that.

ya da da” part… means, ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE IN THIS FAMILY TO NOT BRING HOME A BLACK SPOUSE.

Apparently its okay to make babies with Mexican’s but you know, they are a lighter skinned bunch, generally speaking.

From an earlier posted comment: PS Susan clears it up, Quote: “DELISA is some girl that Leland was involved with and is kind of stalking him and LYSSA is Baby Lyssa, daughter of Dog.”Quote.

From your transcript (great resource btw awesome and many thank yous)

Dog:
I asked Lisa. I asked Lisa.

Tucker:
Lisa’s a lying fucking…

So we see that Lisa aka Baby Lisa is one of the liars here.

Then

Tucker:
It’s DeLisa talking to Tim, making crap up. She’s psycho, Dad. She goes over to Duane Lee and Leland, and she’ll call Duane Lee and Duane Lee won’t answer his phone. She’ll sit in front of his house until she sees him. wacko.

Dog:
She ain’t no more. She ain’t no more.

Tucker:
DeLlisa’s a fucking wacko. I cut DeLisa off three months ago, Dad because I wouldn’t take her shit, okay? And I told Monique I don’t care if you hang out with her but I’m not hanging out with her.

Indicates Delisa (Lelands ex?) was hanging out with monique, leland and a whole whack of other family members.

My Money’s on Delisa being behind much of this, perhaps she roped baby lisa in too, certainly seems she roped Dog in. I bet her motivation has more to do with money fame and power, than Tuckers.

But er, thats just my interpretation.

Comment by Hazel

Lori said:

In any case I’ve been told that the reason that the n word is so offensive when it comes from a white person to a black person esp. in that pronunciation is because in the past that is most likely the last thing every black person that was beaten and or lynched by white people heard before he or she died.

I say Right On! That is the best description I have read as to why the n word is so offensive to so many.

Good on ya!
(bows to Lori)

Comment by Hazel

why cant it be real love if the people are of different races? everyone always assumes ‘love is blind’ and puppy love with it has to do with IR.

Grow up people. They can be in love. Maybe Tucker was tired of the BS. If your mom is always calling your white girlfriend FAT and telling you to dump her and you are madly in love with her wouldn’t you be upset?

Imagine how your poor fat gf would feel? What would you do to protect her?

Comment by shame on you

I think this whole thing was set up also. I agree that Dog shouldn’t have used the word and realize that it’s not a respectful word to use, BUT the one thing that confuses me is that it isn’t all right for anyone else to use it but it’s okay for people of color to use it in reference to each other. This is a really confusing thing to me. I can honestly say that I’ve never used that word because I’ve always been taught that it’s disrespectful and bad, and, quite honestly, I hate the word. BUT – I hate it just as much whether I hear a colored person using it or a white one. I think the word should be stricken from the English language altogether.

But I digress. My point is, yes, Dog made a bad choice and his language gets a bit out of control sometimes. But I sincerely think his untrustworthy, traitorous son is the one who should be getting chewed here. Dog’s a smart guy, and a caring one, also. He wouldn’t do or say anything to hurt anyone on purpose, family or otherwise. Tucker should be ashamed of himself – I’m surprised he can sleep at night. You don’t sell out your own family, especially out of pure malice, which is obviously where this comes from. He’s going to seriously maim his dad’s livelihood just because he’s mad. Sounds like someone was a little overindulged as a kid… maybe he needs to grow up and be a man. He’s obviously missing his dad’s heart and conscience. Wake up and smell the coffee, Tucker – you’re the one who really looks like a jerk.

Comment by Erin

dog is a racist and makes no sense in his defense. he says if anyone of his other kids dated a nigger they would be tossed out of the family, then later says it has nothiing to do with be a racist.

i think tucker did the right thing…i think those who stand behind dog despite of him be a racist hypocrite is only because they too are racist.

it is what it is!

Comment by leland

*Some* people say the word “nigger” is about character.
*Some* people say the word “nigger” is an intended insult.
Black people say the word, just pronounced different.

ie
Black = a skin color
Nigger = black person of bad character
Nigga = okay for blacks to call each other

So… when he said “it’s not about being black” and used the “n” word that everyone’s all freaked over, maybe he was using it in reference to her character… not her skin color

Interestingly…

white = skin color
white trash = insult both blacks and whites use
honky = insult whites don’t use for each other but no one screams racism.

(crawls in corner to watch)

Comment by linda

P.S. I’m not standing beside Dog… don’t even know the man and never watched the show.

Just conversin’ – cause that’s what blogs are for.

:)

Comment by linda

yes Dog made a mistake, but black people call white folks names on occastion . “Tucker Chapman” is a disgraceful and worthless person ..

Comment by elisabeth wynhoff

“Tucker Chapman” needs a reality check, normal people do not do this to their father.

Comment by elisabeth wynhoff

I think they should cancel his show, since he has a problem with minorities. A man of his character needs to know how it feels to be looked down on, so let it bite where it hurts.

Comment by melissa

Love Dog, love the show & emaile A&E to let them know that while I understand they have to do what they have to do, I will no longer watch their channel til Dog is back on the air.

Sounds like the family was set-up & Tucker is a real lowlife. Of course, the media took a small section of the tape & ran with it…

It hardly seems right that a person should be ruined by one taped, supposedly private conversation. Tucker clearly has issues.

Comment by jenzou

:) Hi Linda, I’m not standing against Dog, just saying as I sees it and yes makes for good blogversation.

Jenzou, yes it seems Tucker does have some issues, perhaps having to do with being born a puppy?

Comment by Hazel

I wish Dog would stop apologizing!
For once I wish someone would grow a backbone and say “yeah, I use the word. so what!” First of all, he said “….we don’t mean you fucking scum nigger without a soul. We don’t mean that shit. But America would think we mean that.”
It’s funny… I remember looking the word up a long time ago and it meant the equivalent to ‘ignorant, etc”…. NOW look up the word. Now it’s an insult.
Well, personally, I think white people can be niggers, asian people can be niggers, ALBINOS can be niggers…. it has nothing to do with skin color if you ask me.
Incidently, does anyone know of ONE other word in the english language that black people are allowed to say, but white people are not?

Comment by Steph

It is ironic he has never met the women and called her a “NIGGER”.
“NIGGER”=Black

Comment by Niki

normal people do not do this to their father.

That’s what I keep thinking, too, elisabeth. Who wears a tape and sets up their dad? Weird family. They make mine look normal. :)

Hi Linda, I’m not standing against Dog, just saying as I sees it and yes makes for good blogversation

Completely agreed, Hazel. ‘Course, I’ve been known to debate on both sides of an issue… lol. I can usually see the merits of points on both sides, and it sure do make conversation interesting.

No pun intended, but life is seldom black and white.

Icky looking dad that put an nasty rapist back in jail… strange and dysfunctional family… gah, I’m sure not the one to judge. But it makes a good diversion from work. heh.

Comment by linda

Dog is a hero!

Comment by Colby

Next time a black person says they don’t like a cracker, let’s put them on CNN.

Comment by Jack

Don’t forgot, you use to have us as your slaves and treat as like dirt. We haven’t forgot, we will try and nail you white folks any chance we can get, period. Yeah I use the N word all the time, but it aint right for you too, so get over it.

Comment by Natalie

Tucker you are amoney hungry good for nothing usless son and you do not deserve dog as a father. go buy yourself some crack with all you dirty money and do not come back asshole

Comment by pam geiger

The fact that ANYONE ANYWHERE identifies the word nigger as racist…shows that racism is still alive and well. Anyone familiar with Dog knows he has a potty mouth but a family man with a heart of gold. It is obvious that Dog was merely trying to talk some sense into his wayward son before his family was harmed financially. If A&E is smart, they would keep their show on the air realizing all families have their ups and downs and this information was no ones business but their own family…besides…WHATEVER HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH…ISNT THAT A BIGGER ISSUE than potty mouths?

Comment by Gina

I mean reallllyy…when someone uses the word F**K in a conversation…Im pretty sure they are using it as an adjective and in no way referring to fornication…same as the word nigger…I believe Dog was using it as an adjective…not in a racial slur…but blacks still have an axe to grind and will jump at every opportunity to play the race card…come on …blacks are never gonna be perceived as equal until they stop the victim mentality…my god…get over it already…!!!!

Comment by Gina

Question: HOW DO YOU CHANGE A WORDS’ ORIGIN, THAT WAS MEANT TO BE DEROGATORY(sp) TO A CERTAIN RACE OF PEOPLE?

LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD, WHAT’S DONE IN THE DARK MOST COME TO LIGHT.

I CONTINUE TO READ “GET OVER IT”
WOULD YOU TELL YOUR DAUGHTER WHO WAS RAPED, BEATEN, TAKEN AWAY FROM HER FAMILY, AND SOLD TO GET OVER IT.

TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS, BUT THE MENTAL SCARES LIVES 4EVER.

WE NEED TO SHOW LOVE TO EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT BECAUSE WE ARE ALL CONNECTED THRU OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. AND JUST LIKE DOG WE ALL SINNED AND NEED TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT FOR OUR ACTIONS.
IN LIFE EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON, AND MAYBE “GOD” IS SHOWING HIM A SIGN TO REPENT , ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND MOVE ON. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, BUT DO WE LEARN FROM THEM!

Comment by uNDERSTANDING

Don’t forgot, you use to have us as your slaves and treat as like dirt. We haven’t forgot, we will try and nail you white folks any chance we can get, period. Yeah I use the N word all the time, but it aint right for you too, so get over it.

No, Natalie, “we” didn’t. Slavery was abolished 142 years ago. Ancestors of “some” whites may have had slaves. Personally, my maternal grandfather was Jewish, my paternal grandfather was Polish/Ukranian. I have lost ancestors to the holocaust and none of them owned a slave. Yet you would judge me by nothing but skin color.

You can not paint all whites with the same brush because of what happened to your ancestors. Well… you can… but then you’d be guilty of racism, too.

You can’t protest racists and be one at the same time. So which is it… you going to judge by skin color? or not?

:) (P.S. Not being pissy, just conversing…)

Comment by linda

I CONTINUE TO READ “GET OVER IT”
WOULD YOU TELL YOUR DAUGHTER WHO WAS RAPED, BEATEN, TAKEN AWAY FROM HER FAMILY, AND SOLD TO GET OVER IT.

Yes, actually, I would. Because the alternative to ‘getting over it’ is to dwell on it, obsess on it… and NOTHING good comes of that. Take a lesson from a farmer.

Sh*t happens. Sh*t happens to lots of people, for lots of reasons. Dwelling on it accomplishes nothing. So yes, I’d tell my own daughter GET OVER IT. MOVE ON. Live life to it’s fullest, and that doesn’t include bitterness over things that are in the PAST.

:)

Comment by linda

Hey Linda…”Used to” have slaves…”used to” is the operative word here…the white race has MORE than bent over backwards to reverse our wrongs and make blacks equals…and then we hear OVER and OVER again from blacks that it still isnt good enuf..ya’ll gotta be real here and start showin some love ….Blacks lack of appreciation for our overkill efforts to right our wrongs will eventually burn out all races on sympathizing with your historic plight. What do you think the end result will be…hmmm? we wont bend over backwards anymore? Then you’ll have to try just as hard as every other race to get along in this world.

Comment by Gina

Actually, I don’t (personally) think it’s about bending over backwards or forwards or appreciation or any of those things.

I think every minority group demanding “their” rights takes away from the meaing of HUMAN rights.

If the idea of human rights is to give the same rights and equality to all human beings, then why do we have women’s rights, or minority rights, or any of those?

White, black, brown, yellow, man, women, handicapped, not handicapped, bright, dull, etc — we are all human.

It is the segmentation into “my group” (ie; black, white, woman, man, etc) that causes problems. Because once we segment into a group, we think “other groups” can’t understand us. And that’s baloney. IMHO, anyway. :)

Comment by linda

I have to say I’m very interested in a lot of what people had to say, and disturbed by some. I felt compelled to speak about the meaning of nigger to blacks and why it’s such a strong word. First thing is the word itself in its most original state was never meant to be derogatory; the word in its literal sense simply means black or dark skinned. I believe the reason it has such a negative connotation now is because when it was spoke in America during the time of slavery it was used to call upon any and every black person. What I mean by that is they were not known by their names…they were simply called nigger by most. I believe this plays a major part in how the word became negative. I also feel that because it was used so often it stuck with black people and they became accustomed to the term and that’s why it’s still used today, although now it has an “urban twist” to it in the hip hop area; it still rings the same way it did many years ago to some of the older generation. Another factor to look at is-the context in which the word is being used, I think most of us know when someone is speaking maliciously or with bigotry on their tongue. There are plenty of people who are not black and use the word amongst their friends who are, and it’s not taken in a racist manner. I think the whole thing with Duane Chapman is very unfortunate, I do believe that his comments were racist he even says “I’m not going to lose everything for a racial slur”; by his own admission his statements are racist, but I also believe that the majority of people harbor some sort of prejudice feelings however most of us are lucky enough not to have our every words documented.

Comment by Cadence

Well I’ve discovered why Dog was so paranoid about people in bushes with tapes and camera’s. The enquirer has been trying to catch dog in the process of buying, smoking and or sharing crac with his children. Two count em Two mothers of dog’s children claim their childrens drug problems stem from smoking crak with their dad, as KIDS.

The claim is he got into crack in 1995, buys and does $2,000.00 worth of crack a month, pays for it in cash so his wife Beth doesn’t find out. Of course this comes from the mouth of a drug dealer, his.

This is all he said she said they said stuff so you know I’m not all that invested in it as being the truth, but here’s the thing two of his kids went to the enquirer, the first Chris did so after getting out of jail and part of his allegations were that his dad smoked crack with him. Now Chris is claiming it was all a lie.

2 mothers of dogs kids have come forward with similar allegations, a drug dealer with more.

I’m not advising anyone to believe the hype BUT when half a dozen people run out of a house yelling FIRE! Maybe there is a fire.

http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FDog%2BChapman%2Farticles%2F58%2FMonique%2BShinnery%2Bsuing%2BDuane%2BChapman&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalenquirer.com%2Fdog_victim_sue_bounty_hunter%2Fcelebrity%2F64343

Comment by Hazel

oops that link goes to the tape tirade

try this and read all about what people closest to him have disclosed about his racism and drug use.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/dog_bounty_hunter_racism/celebrity/64337

Peggy Munoz, now a private investigator in Lakewood, Colo., was a former bail bondsman working the same turf as Dog Chapman from 1989 to 2005.

She claims Dog once sat in her office and explained his “approach” to the bail bond business.

“Dog said, ‘I don’t like to bond out n—-rs because they don’t have any money and I have trouble collecting on them.

“‘And I don’t like to bond out Mexicans because, well, they just run.’”

Dog’s step-daughter Nicole Gillespie, daughter of Dog’s ex-wife Tawnee, says she regularly heard hateful language from Dog when she was growing up.

“My mother was half-Mexican, and if they fought, Dog would call her a ‘dirty spic whore’ and a ‘dirty Mexican slut,’” said Nicole.

“I remember playing rap music at the house and he would shout, ‘Turn that n….r s..t off my radio!’

Comment by Hazel

Linda ha black and white _ That’s the story of my life on soooo many levels, and yes I’m one of those folks that can see two three seven sides to any one story and I getcha. Sometimes its hard to decide which side of the fence to stand on (for me) because I can see both sides pretty clearly. At the end of the day, I gotta go with my heart (who seems to have a mind of her own.)

Plus i likes me a good fracas lol!

Comment by Hazel

If this word is so offensive to you then why don’t you stop saying it yourself? Maybe you should take our own advice!!
Why is it ok for you to call white people honkey and all the other names you call white people?? HUMMMMM why is this okay and not racist?? You need tp practice what you preech if it is so offensive then eliminate the word completely and your n word problems will be solved.

Comment by Tammy

lol Hazel… I likes me a good fracas, too.

My BF tells me controversy is my middle name. Funny thing is, I’m not trying to be controversial most of the time… I just see more than one side to a story.

I don’t see black and white.
I see all 256 shades of grey… plus black and white. lol

Comment by linda

Tammy who are you talking to?

Comment by Hazel

Linda what would the world be with out a little ‘colorful’ controversy?

Blah, I expect your BF probably likes a little heat in his GF ;)

Comment by Hazel

i love the chapman family..good people…and i feel real bad there not on the tv…tucker selling out to his dad is a whimp..and..that was a private converstion.dog apologize..but no..the black leaders want. his show pulled..you no its ok for the black comics to say nigger and get away with it..but this was in a private call.it was wrong tho to use that word..very wrong..dog and beth and family hurry back..your missed:)

Comment by phonda

Tucker Chapman and Monique Shinnery are the VICTIMS. It’s not what Dog said, but how he said it!! If Snoop Dog said what Dog said, he would be in trouble too……………. Snoop dog loves to have n@#@$%’s and white people over to his house!!!

Comment by Terry

Good for you dog! I am glad you brought on the “N” word, has been a while since I heard it. We need to start using it more often to describe these thug gang bangin niggas. They deserve not place in America, but they do deserve a place back home in Africa where they belong…we love you dog!!!!!

Comment by Christie

“Natalie | November 9, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Don’t forgot, you use to have us as your slaves and treat as like dirt. We haven’t forgot, we will try and nail you white folks any chance we can get, period. Yeah I use the N word all the time, but it aint right for you too, so get over it.”

OMG, you’ve got to be kidding me! YOU were a slave?? You were “raped, beaten, taken away from your family and sold”? I thought not. In reality, you’ve had every opportunity your ancestors did not. (And by your statement there, you choose not to take advantage of it!)

I never owned a slave. My ancestors never owned a slave. But yet, you choose to include me in a group of people who did. Who is the real racist here?

I hate that we had slavery here. Key word being HAD. How can ANY African American be so bitter over something they are generations away from having had to experience. Yes, it sucks, but have you EVER sat and thought how lucky you are to be alive NOW and not THEN?

It is so sad how logic suffers……..

Comment by Steph

awesomely put Steph!!!!

Comment by Gina

The Big Picture

This is a man who has a large family; I also come from a large family. When a family member becomes successful some of the other members are sometimes jealous. It’s not fair but it is very common. The most difficult decision can be when to cut them out of your life for the sake of your other family members and your career. It’s called tough love and it is necessary when a person has to protect their loved ones from another loved one. This is not a black-white issue. Shit like this happens everyday. The reason Tucker taped his father is because he had something to sell. The reason he had something to sell is another famous white person used the N word. This was valuable to the Enquirer because it sparks feelings in all of us. We do need to deal with race issues and stop exploiting the N word to have a news story. Either everyone stops using the N word or stop complaining.

Comment by Kristina

I vote “stop complaining”

Let’s learn NEW lessons like… you know… the whole “sticks and stones” thing!

;)

Comment by Steph

I never owned a slave. My ancestors never owned a slave. But yet, you choose to include me in a group of people who did. Who is the real racist here?

I hate that we had slavery here. Key word being HAD. How can ANY African American be so bitter over something they are generations away from having had to experience. Yes, it sucks, but have you EVER sat and thought how lucky you are to be alive NOW and not THEN?

It is so sad how logic suffers……..

Comment by vinnie

the media is real problem.
Id like to see one of you people stand up & tell the world youve never used racial slurrs.youre a fucking liar if you do.This is our human nature to be like we are.granted the public doesnt need to hear icons using these words , but who really gives a shit???
That black girl is a nigger.a fucking low life person who was ready to capitalize on chapmans wealth & success by unworthy means.that nigger might as well just cracked a safe & stole money to begin with.I know plenty of mexican niggers & white niggers too.Nigger , though , is a name that has always been associated with african americans..would it sound right if you referred to a black as a wetback? or a beaner?
ever wonder how the name beaner came to be? when you find out , youll see it is pure stupidity.yet we use the term.Its dorky shit & people use it up like theres no tomorrow.The real problem here in society is the media.I believe its the media we need to take control of….not dog chapman , or imus , etc….but the sick media…& people like sharpton who make careers on keeping segregation an issue among people..fifty years ago we wouldnt have raised an eyebrow cause someone got called a name…this nation is fucking stupid to allow any media group that has created stories like these to even exist in our public broadcast systems…you niggers need to shut the fuck up about being a nigger…Youre problem today & tomorrow isnt that I just called you a nigger…its that you will always reamin to be a nigger..however you slice & dice it , it always comes up the same..youre a nigger & jose is a beaner & Im a god damn cracker…a honkey..I dont give a shit…
Ill still always see you all as a human being & Ill still appreciate & respect your place here on earth like I do my own..but dont you dare ever come to my space & try to change who I am.Ill have you in your place faster than you can blink..

Comment by moe fugger

heres another idea for you fucks to think about…
Get the hell off of this subject & worry about something like those sand niggers that are trying to blow up the rest of the world…911 MIGHT NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF ALL YOU FUCKING DIPSHITS WERE WORRIED ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY MORE THAN SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC EYE USING THE WORD NIGGER..
Its shit like you motherfuckers that let bad things come to be…
My guess is that not a one of you dipshits even know the real reasons behind desert storm & the detaining of hussein…you probably stuck your nose in the media & think you know shit…you dont…
stop giving a shit so much about someone saying nigger & start paying attention to real issues around the world..you fucking dopes…

Comment by moe fugger

If I was chapman , Id never ever give that kid of his another cent.He might not disown him , but Im willing to bet this issue will never be overlooked by chapman…he’ll never forget what happened to his career becuase of the punk kid & a nigger

Comment by moe fugger

moe.. wow. three posts in a row several minutes apart must mean you’re really fired up about this.

I agree with some of what you said, but don’t think saying it the way you said it tends to make people think about what you’re saying. Instead, they’ll be wrapped up in how you said it. I’ve been known to have a real potty mouth too… but when you want to make a point it sometimes works against you.

Comment by fracas

Very well said fracas. I still don’t think Dog ever meant to offend the black race. When I get angry all the words just come out of my mouth. But if you want to be heard and not insult or fear you stay calm. I think what is unique about Dog is the compassion he shows the people he deals with. Dog has a past, his son has a past, we all have a past. It is what you do with your future that determines the man. I hope Dog is given the chance to live his life including the TV show. If A&E doesn’t pick it back up, I think we will see him on another network.

Comment by Kristina

Hey Moe…

1) I can honestly say I have never used a racial slur and I’m not a f*cking liar. I simply don’t talk that way.

2) I agree with you about the media. Here’s what people don’t get. The minute a corporation has a board of directors, the first responsibility of the corporateion is to make a profit for the directors.

The media exists to make a profit. Anything else is secondary. When people refuse to understand how the corporate world works, they become as easy to manipulate as puppets. And that’s what they’re doing. Feeding into the frenzy and delivering the mouths and eyeballs that turn profit.

3) I agree with Fracas that you have some good points, but the way you’re saying them doesn’t help get them across.

People hear HOW you talk long before they hear WHAT you say, much less what you MEAN.

:)

Comment by linda

TUCKER IS NOTHING MORE BUT A CRIMINAL WITH A LOSING STREAK HE TRY TO RUIN EVERYTHING HIS OWN FATHER (DUANE “DOG”CHAPMAN AND HIS WIFE BETH”)HAVE WORKED A HELL OF A LOT FOR BECAUSE OF HIS BULLSHIT BY SETTING HIM UP WITH PHONE CONVERSATION BEING TAPED AND DOG DIDN’T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT AND HE DIDN’T KNOW HE WAS BEING SET UP SO TUCKER CAN GET MAKE A FAST BUCK BY SELLING THE TAPE TO THE TABLOIDS FOR A LOUSY $15,000 TUCKER THOUGHT HE HAD IT MADE WELL HE WAS WRONG DEAD WRONG BECAUSE KNOW THAT THE SHOW IS BACK ON THE AIR FOR THE FIFTH SEASON TUCKER COULDN’T A DAMN THING ABOUT IT NOW THAT HE’S BACK IN JAIL FOR PAROLE VIOLATIONS INVOLVING DRUGS THAT IS LEAD TO HIS DOWN FALL AND ALL THAT BUT THE PROBLEMS DOG HAD IN THE LATE SEVENTIES WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY I MEAN LELAND,DUANNE LEE BABY LYSSA THEY ARE NOT LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG AND ALL THAT CRAP THAT TUCKER SAID ABOUT HIS GIRLFRIEND WANNA JUMP ON BETH AND ALL THAT BULLSHIT ABOUT LELAND AND DUANNE LEE AND THAT WAS TOTALLY LOWDOWN BECAUSE THEY WORKED WITH FATHER AND GOT FAMILIES OF THEIR OWN JUST LIKE DOG AND BETH HAS BUT AS FOR TUCKER ALL THAT STUPID SHIT HE DID HE BROUGHT IT ALL ON HIMSELF DOG CLEANED UP HIS ACT ALONG TIME AGO!

Comment by Kewan Woodard

TUCKER IS NOTHING MORE BUT A CRIMINAL WITH A LOSING STREAK HE TRY TO RUIN EVERYTHING HIS OWN FATHER (DUANE “DOG”CHAPMAN AND HIS WIFE BETH”)HAVE WORKED A HELL OF A LOT FOR BECAUSE OF HIS BULLSHIT BY SETTING HIM UP WITH PHONE CONVERSATION BEING TAPED AND DOG DIDN’T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT AND HE DIDN’T KNOW HE WAS BEING SET UP SO TUCKER CAN GET MAKE A FAST BUCK BY SELLING THE TAPE TO THE TABLOIDS FOR A LOUSY $15,000 TUCKER THOUGHT HE HAD IT MADE WELL HE WAS WRONG DEAD WRONG BECAUSE NOW THAT THE SHOW IS BACK ON THE AIR FOR THE FIFTH SEASON TUCKER COULDN’T A DAMN THING ABOUT IT NOW THAT HE’S BACK IN JAIL FOR PAROLE VIOLATIONS INVOLVING DRUGS THAT IS LEAD TO HIS DOWN FALL AND ALL THAT BUT THE PROBLEMS DOG HAD IN THE LATE SEVENTIES WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY I MEAN LELAND,DUANNE LEE BABY LYSSA THEY ARE NOT LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG AND ALL THAT CRAP THAT TUCKER SAID ABOUT HIS GIRLFRIEND WANNA JUMP ON BETH AND ALL THAT BULLSHIT ABOUT LELAND AND DUANNE LEE AND THAT WAS TOTALLY LOWDOWN BECAUSE THEY WORKED WITH FATHER AND GOT FAMILIES OF THEIR OWN JUST LIKE DOG AND BETH HAS BUT AS FOR TUCKER ALL THAT STUPID SHIT HE DID HE BROUGHT IT ALL ON HIMSELF DOG CLEANED UP HIS ACT ALONG TIME AGO!

Comment by Kewan Woodard

Nigger/Nigga being whatever the people concerned with using it notwithstanding…I have a question: Is it REALLY that important to people to join the cool kids club so they can use it too? I mean, REALLY? Get over yourselves, build your self-esteem, and find a better club to join.

I don’t use “Nigga/Nigger/whatever” any more than I use the terms “son” or “my dude.” I don’t get the rest of the realm’s infatuation with the term, really. Dog’s need to use it is suspect, but if he’s a closet hater of brown-skinned folks…that’s on him. Let the Politically Correct Police hound his ass if it really is THAT important. Loosen your belts before the noose gets any tighter around your collective throats and enjoy the more important aspects of life. Trust when I say using a word WON’T change your life, so move on.

Comment by Morgan

I have not heard anything but the tape. Clearly this man is no saint and he has issues with his children. Compounded with a little money and fame and you have the makings for a hot mess. I have said things that I didn’t mean in the heat of the moment, but his comment about how he would respond to lisa dating a black man sounds a little racist to me. I am always amazed at how easily people like to dismiss racism as the minority group being overly sensitive. I am african american and was raised in a predominantly white environment. Because I am fair complected people mistake me for white. You would be amazed at the things white people say when they don’t think we are in the room. The bigger issue is that often white people have no idea how violent that word is and what it triggers. I am black and have used the word myself. Interestingly enough I have never used it as a term of affection. Dog may not realize how very racist he is. I don’t think most white people are willing to realize how ugly the use of the word is and the affect it has on its intended victim. I could look at Dog and his family and see uneducated white trash getting a pass cause they are white, what I see in reality is a man and his wife doing the best they can to be decent human beings, raise a happy healthy family and do some good in the world along the way. I do believe that his intentions are good and that he probably has a good heart. My hope is that he uses his faith to guide him and his family through this blunder, recognize where he was wrong, make sincere amends and move forward. I heard him say recently on an episode that he lives by the golden rule, Mr. Dog, would you want some one to slander your children and spew such hate on them? I ask you brother….What would Jesus do? No one is perfect, but transforming the parts of yourself that need improvement so that we can make the world a better place for everyone is the real name of the game. I wish everyone here peace.

Comment by Jamie




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