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I agree it was extremely poor judgement on her part. The sad part is — that she can’t sing. She may have a decent voice, but she doen’t know how to perform or have any stage presence.

I still think that it was probably her idea

http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/02/25/racy-idol-photos-brilliant/

yeah man i see what you are saying

Does anyone remember Frenchie? She was kicked OFF the show for her photos (not that I ever saw them, though) of her nude. Here we have a girl who is posing nude, and performing oral sex on someone, and no one is going to kick her off? Double standard.

The oral sex photos are not Antonella but the others are.

I agree. I think they kept her for the ratings. I also think they know that she’ll be kept on my all the “train wreck” factor votes and thus, their ratings will benefit until she really gets the boot because she can’t sing as well as the real contenders.

You’d think someone close to her would explain that to her.

So you’re saying that we shouldn’t share photos of ourselves because our friends might shit on us one day?

Take that to it’s logical conclusion and you have the kids of today sitting inside. On the couch. Not moving. Nice and still.

Nobody’s gonna sh*t on them, boy.

Let these kids live a little. Sure it might bite them in the ass one day, but who gives a shit? If it weren’t for America’s backwards sex-obsessed-repressed morality, nobody WOULD give a shit. Excuse my french.

I was the photographer in that shoot. I think we should just publish it in a magazine!

Wow, what the heck is wrong with this country? Antonella has been called a “slut” and a “whore” so she should step down? Hide her face in shame? Rend her clothes?

This is backward and ridiculous.

We are a society that is sumultaneously obsessed with sexuality and punishment. We need to grow up.

Well no, actually. I wouldn’t suggest she step down because people called her names, I would suggest she step down because she:

a) showed utter disrespect for America by posing as she did at the War Memorial.
b) placed inappropriate pictures of herself online and then agreed to take part in a show that purports itself to be “family entertainment”
c) knows that other contestants have been put off the show for the same type of photos

It’s not about the names, it’s about the other stuff. This is but one of several posts here on the subject.

Stepping down would be a way to show people she isn’t someone with no respect for others or her country. She messed up, and that’s ok. People mess up. Stepping out and using this to help others not make the same mistakes would do way more for her than staying on and getting the “train wreck” vote factor until it just isn’t enough and she goes home.

It’s just about choosing which notoriety one wants… the Britney/Lindsay/Paris kind or the smart/talented/decent gal who happened to mess up and still ends up a role model kind.

I, myself as a teen, and also a male, find it disturbing that Antonella Barba is being framed (as I believe). I have seen many proofs to support that Antonella’s nude pictures are indeed fake. Such as:
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Which was posted by AMERICAN IDOL CSS.

I agree, Antonella is not a bad looking person! But I strongly believe she is not the type to take a picture of herself, giving someone a blowjob.

I think she is innocent. Please refer to this link and you will see why I think she is innocent for the pictures:
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Note: I have removed the two links provided, because the post you’re commenting to… is already a post confirming that the pictures you refer to are indeed fake. I suspect you didn’t read the post or you’d have known that I already provided a link to verify that the blowjob pictures are not Antonella. Your links (both exactly the same) are to someone’s photobucket site that included, first of all, an image of a sex act I don’t think needs to be linked to from this post, as well as numerous personal pictures of whomever the site belongs to including school photos and someone’s baby. I don’t know that this person wants all their photos viewed by the thousands of people who click here, and so I removed the link. -Fracas

Should we get Daniel Radcliffe fired from the last two Harry Potter productions?

He was COMPLETELY nude! On the stage!

Egad!

Natalia, you’re so missing the point… mine anyway. I don’t speak for the others who comment and they all have their own opinions. Some are way over the edge.. like the comment your referred to in your own post at your site about the issue. I wouldn’t tell people to “shun” her as a person and the God/Jesus I know of whouldn’t shun her either. I make a different point.

She wasn’t in a play on the stage that required nudity, She planted her bare ass crack on a War Memorial and that’s just plain bad taste and offensive to families who’ve lost loved ones and whose memory is memorialized there. It’s the same as if she’d gone straddling her bare crotch on a headstone/grave marker at the cemetary and then wanted us to not think ill of her for it.

It was a bad choice, showing poor character which I think she could turn around if she wanted to by saying “I made a bad choice, it was rude and I’m sorry”.

Would you want someone to pee on your mom’s (hypothetical) grave and then tell you that you just have an obsession with bodily fluids and punishment and need to grow up? What she did was kind of like that… rude, offensive and not even in the same ballpark as being nude on a stage.

Put aside your obvious bias towards thinking everyone who criticizes something to do with an act of nudity is criticizing it because they need to “grow up” and maybe you’d see the real point (mine anyway).

We do her no favours by excusing her poor choices under the guise of “society’s obsession with sexuality and punishment”. She should be held responsible for that poor choice because it was a poor choice.

Actually, I agree with you at least halfway - nudity is used in all sorts of stupid ways. Hell, I have a partially nude (and extremely annoying) Paris Hiltron trying to sell me burgers. It’s tiring.

But in the case of someone like this teenager - I don’t see any calculated attempts to shock/sell/provoke/enrage.

I see someone who’s young and having fun - foolish fun, maybe - but certainly nothing that should MAKE her leave the show.

I thought she should leave the show because at this point, it’s clear that she is being kept there for the ratings and I honestly believe that if she won because of the extra attention, she’d never really ever be taken seriously anyway. I feel it would do her far better to be a stand up kind of gal, admit she was foolish, bow out and you know… she’d probably end up getting some gig anyway. People would be so impressed, she could then be a role model for other teens instead of a joke to everyone, and probably have a real future in the public eye. People are forgiving of mistakes.

It’s because it will appear that she’s cashing in on the Paris Hilton factor (no talent but look at my crotch and see my sex tapes woohoo I should be famous) that I maintain she should take the high road and it will probably get her more of a life than being another Paris.

Ick. Why would anyone with any talent want that?

Amazing how people who seem so opposed can find agreement in some things (if we try), isn’t it?

I’ll have to go read more of you!

:)

She is still there because people are voting for her. The Frenchie thing is apples & oranges. If you could ask all the WW2 GIs if they minded Antonella on their memorial, I doubt you would get any complaints. Enough of the phony outrage. Most women are jealous because Antonella is drop dead gorgeous. None of the photos that are actually of Antonella are offensive. Nothing you can’t see at the beach or on TV. At a local tanning salon they have a full lenghth photo on their front door of a topless women partially
covering up her breast with her arm. This faces out to the general public 24/7. No one gets offened. This is what Antonella did. Big deal. Get over it.

So a local tanning salon displaying a full length photo of a topless woman makes everything else ok. Well hell. Why didn’t I think of that?

I suppose if the local salon that caters to kids here decided to post a naked photo of a ten year old girl, well… that would make child pornography ok… so long as no one gets offended.

Oy.

The point you make about GI’s… well you aren’t exactly on the money there. I won’t make this comment into an essay though, I’ll create you a very special post just for that!

You can’t possibly actually believe that any time a woman voices her opinion about something another female does that it’s because she’s jealous, can you? So does that mean every time you voice displeasure with something another man does, that you’re doing so because you’re jealous that they might have a bigger dick than you?

ROTFL

Antonella can be beautiful, no doubt. I’ve seen her looking stunning and I’ve seen her looking average. Most women are that way, we can be stunning, we can be average and even the stunning ones can be pretty scary looking at times too.

What the hell does that have to do with disapproving of someone’s actions?

Probably leaked by someone she thought a friend. How sad.

People should mind their own business and leave the hot chick alone. We need more hot chicks with hot pics. Woohoo.

Seriously, though, the photos weren’t even the least bit offensive. At this day and age, I’m amazed anyone even got riled up about them. Baywatch showed way more skin and that was free TV and that was years ago. (sorry when I think of Idol, I kinda remember Hasselhoff lol!)

I thought Idol did the right thing. I didn’t agree with them removing Frenchie either and her pics were softcore porn like you see in xxx websites. Antonella’s was just sexy studio pics like you see in the cover of FHM or Maxim.

At the end of the day, those pictures put her on the map and will likely lead to a brief career at the least.